This Is a Wake-up Call You Can’t Ignore | Ep. 120 with Coach Pain
What does it take to live with a warrior mindset? In this new episode of the No Grey Areas Podcast, we sit down with Coach Pain, a dynamic fitness coach, Motiversity speaker, business owner, and motivator to unpack what it truly means to have a warrior mindset. Known for his no-excuses approach to life, Coach Pain brings the fiery bold truths about discipline, identity, and rising above the comfort that’s keeping you stuck.
From overcoming pain to rejecting laziness, he challenges the lies we believe about success, rest, and what we’re capable of. With raw stories and hard-earned wisdom, Coach Pain invites us to stop imitating others, stop chasing quick wins, and start showing up with purpose—because you were made for more than just getting by.
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Transcript
Host
Man, I am fired up for today's guest. Coach Pain is finally on the No Gray Areas podcast. He's a powerhouse speaker, has over 30 years in the fitness industry, and is a top global motivator. Known for his raw truth and no excuse mindset. In this episode, we dive into what it means to live with the warrior mentality. Why comfort can be so dangerous, and how to not let pain define you.
::Host
Let's get started.
::Pat McCalla
Coach Pain, thank you so much for being on the No Gray Areas podcast. I'm so excited. I told you the story a little bit, but,
::Pat McCalla
Peyton, who is kind of behind the scenes and she works and she makes snow great. She's one of them. That makes no great.
::Pat McCalla
Yeah. It's happened. She actually is working,
::Pat McCalla
for you and with you at your studio. She's running, spin class.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir. At Cameron cycle studio.
::Coach Pain
Yeah.
::Pat McCalla
you, you just launched this gym there, and so we're going to promote that in a little
::Coach Pain
bit.
::Coach Pain
But appreciate it.
::Pat McCalla
she came back and was talking to me about, had you started doing this thing. And I'm working with this Coach Pain.
::Pat McCalla
He's really cool guy. And I'm like, whoa whoa, whoa whoa. Timeout.
::Coach Pain
out.
::Pat McCalla
can't be talking about to Coach Pain because you're almost like a celebrity sitting in front of me for years.
::Coach Pain
I just go to the gym.
::Pat McCalla
get online, I just listen like motivational talks
::Coach Pain
and there's nothing.
::Pat McCalla
And man, audience. If you have not heard Coach Pain,
::Pat McCalla
you have a YouTube
::Coach Pain
channel.
::Pat McCalla
just go look up Coach Pain. You go to his YouTube channel,
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
talk about a motivator.
::Coach Pain
you struggle
::Pat McCalla
in doing another rep or another set, you need to go listen to Coach Pain. So anyway, I'm
::Pat McCalla
so excited to have you
::Coach Pain
I'm excited to be back.
::Coach Pain
Let me just
::Pat McCalla
jump into this because,
::Pat McCalla
on your website and on your YouTube channel,
::Coach Pain
you actually
::Pat McCalla
this quote and I want you to start speaking to this one.
::Pat McCalla
You said it is through difficult situations and great pain that the human spirit grows and character is developed.
::Coach Pain
That's right. Yeah. Well, here's the thing.
::Coach Pain
How can a victory be won without a struggle first? How can you know what a victory is if you've never suffered? And a lot of times, people always want to be at the top, but they have no idea what it means to be at the bottom. What's important is that sometimes people hate to fail.
::Coach Pain
Nobody wants to suck at anything. We always want to win. But what happens when you lose? And do you know how to adapt from a loss? Is the difference between losing and giving up?
::Coach Pain
I believe failure is a lesson which most people do know that,
::Coach Pain
today's society, it's all about competing with the next person, the next business, the next individual.
::Coach Pain
Who knows? But there's nobody better than you. Nobody can do you better than you. Your battle is within yourself. So I believe that in time, you know, as we grow as individuals, whether you're young or mature, you have to understand when you are a human being until you just don't know everything in three. You got to suck at something.
::Coach Pain
It's okay. You know.
::Coach Pain
Do you stay there? No. Do you complain about it? Not necessarily. What are you going to do about it? Because a complain don't do nothing for you. If I complain about it, it sits there and it just builds up negative energy. So I believe that for the most part, when you're going through these motions and you want to get to a point in your life, you gotta hope to grow.
::Pat McCalla
I found that true in my life.
::Pat McCalla
we were talking about it before we turned the mics on. We're pretty close to same age,
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Coach Pain
Right now. Back in my life,
::Pat McCalla
you have to hurt to
::Coach Pain
grow. That's right. That's a
::Pat McCalla
powerful statement. It's
::Coach Pain
It's. Yes.
::Pat McCalla
the most growth I've seen at different stage in my life was always in
::Coach Pain
When you were in a when you're in a dark place.
::Coach Pain
You can find the light, but the light is you. You have something that is very, very powerful within you as the flesh and that spirit. But the flesh is weak. The spirit is eternal.
::Coach Pain
You have to become a warrior and and you have to have that connection. And sometimes we depend more on our flesh than our eternal spirit.
::Coach Pain
Emotions are dangerous, but you can use those emotions to benefit you if you use them the right way. But
::Coach Pain
again, we're living in a time right now where people will kind of let their judgment be clouded by things. They may be surrounded by like social media, you know, everything on social media. I think sometimes social media is like a cesspool.
::Coach Pain
Yeah. I think more positive information out there is frowned upon. And all the bad stuff is like, yay! Yeah, yeah. You. I love the negative stuff. So drama sells tickets,
::Coach Pain
and you either can run away from it or you can be a part of it. You become a product of the environment, and you get to know the type of people you hang around with and the company you keep.
::Coach Pain
the spirit is a powerful weapon. It is. It is a gift. You know, I look at
::Coach Pain
where I'm at in my life. I've had my heartaches. My pain became my passion. Losing my mom over 12 years ago was probably one of the hardest things I'd endure. I was just traveling in from out of town, about a week before.
::Coach Pain
building competition, back in: ::Coach Pain
she had to die. And I want to say she had to, but I think her death resonated enough in me to get me to a different point, that my pain became my passion.
::Coach Pain
So that's what I mean.
::Coach Pain
About
::Pat McCalla
So? Because I know that's a that's a tagline. That's something you
::Coach Pain
I say it often,
::Coach Pain
I say I'll.
::Coach Pain
Work it out. Yeah,
::Pat McCalla
out of my pain that my passion
::Coach Pain
Absolutely.
::Coach Pain
And that's.
::Coach Pain
That is one of the we that is one of the most you know, I always would tell people you can't hear me anymore because
::Coach Pain
the hardest pain that I had to endure was losing the woman that gave me life. Yeah.
::Pat McCalla
You were pretty close to your mom and
::Coach Pain
I was there. Yeah, I was I was a mama's boy as a boy. But
::Coach Pain
you know, as a fact, you know, that's your first love is your mom. You know what I'm saying? Especially for boys. And I believe that. And, thank God for my wife, you know, that she teaching me balance, you know, and, I'm grateful for the lessons that I've learned.
::Coach Pain
At the age of ten, I can never forget it. Sitting at the edge of the bed, you always tell me. I don't know what God going to do with you. But he's got a calling on your life. But one thing she's always said to me, she said, whatever you do, and I say this often to people, she will always say, don't change people.
::Coach Pain
Make a difference.
::Pat McCalla
change. People
::Coach Pain
make a difference. So in other words, she was saying, don't try to change people. Make a difference. Because people and you can't change people. Yeah, she was a beast. She's no joke. My dad too. He. He was a monster to say.
::Coach Pain
To
::Pat McCalla
to that man. You what a gift, right? That you had two parents that you have so much respect
::Coach Pain
Absolutely. Grandparents, you name it, come from
::Pat McCalla
what you just described. 210 years old, and your mom is just
::Coach Pain
I never forget that message. Never forget it. Never forget it.
::Pat McCalla
that's part of our role as parents, isn't
::Coach Pain
Yeah.
::Coach Pain
You want to. You want to have the fire
::Coach Pain
to. You know, and I'd say this out of respect. I think today's society is soft and it's going to be intense. And we need to change that, especially for these kids, because they're the future and us as parents now, we have to instill that we're passing the torch. You know, they're no good to us and we're not going to them if we're not showing how good we are together as a whole.
::Coach Pain
It takes a village to raise a child, you know, and so many people, gotten to a point to where it's like, just go do what you want, go where you want to go, do what you want to do. And the information that they get from being out there, and they bring it back home to you. And now you got to fix that.
::Coach Pain
So you always kind of go back home and ask yourself what my parents think. Who loved me, who raised me, who taught me right from wrong, who put me in perspective and the direction I need to go. You know, raise up a child
::Coach Pain
that he should be raised and within them will not depart from there.
::Coach Pain
we gotta get back to those roots.
::Coach Pain
And I think, you know, for our society, as long as people say times of change, principles and morals never change.
::Coach Pain
Never. And I stand on that.
::Pat McCalla
And that's so powerful to know because again, you think about the change that the last hundred years have brought to like humanity for hundreds and hundreds of years,
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir. It would be a
::Pat McCalla
technological change. Like they made the wheel a little bit better,
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
rounder, whatever.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
then we go from
::Pat McCalla
driving cars. In the early: ::Pat McCalla
e have someone on the moon in: ::Coach Pain
technology.
::Pat McCalla
But through all that change, your point is that the character, morality, standards, those things don't change.
::Coach Pain
You can build a city of fortune, but you can't change the man that I am today. It doesn't matter what you build around me. You can't change who I am.
::Coach Pain
You're a poet.
::Coach Pain
Now. I'm just a man. I'm just.
::Coach Pain
Always. I'm just.
::Coach Pain
I believe that
::Coach Pain
again. And I use this, you know, out of. Not out of, just saying it. Something had to happen, you know, rather it was, very, you know, devastating or, sad, whatever you want to call it. Something had you have to lose to win. Yeah, I had to lose something to discover who I was.
::Coach Pain
And that
::Pat McCalla
was really when your mom died.
::Coach Pain
my mind.
::Coach Pain
Turn it around. Because I watched this woman leave this world. I watch her transition. When a doctor came into my room with my family and I was the first one to run in the room, and he said, there's nothing they can do for because she had a massive stroke. And obviously my dad discovered on the day he lost her and she was on life support for about seven days.
::Coach Pain
But the doctor basically told us a few days before she passed that there was nothing they could do for her because he had too much blood on the brain, things like that. And I always had a sense of hope, like anybody would.
::Coach Pain
And the part that resonates to this day, when I walked in the room and looked at her, hugged her, and I told her I was going to make a proud, you know, and do the things that she would expect of me.
::Coach Pain
And as I was walking out, I saw a tear go down face and they always say, when a person is transitioning, the last thing that goes to hearing. And I remember someone saying to me that she heard everything you said. So
::Coach Pain
to this day, you know, I take that with me. You know, you never could. You can never stop grieving.
::Coach Pain
Everybody grieves differently. I grieve every day. Some days I had my quiet moments and I had my moments. Some day I had my smiles. You know, one of her favorite songs we played at her, funeral ceremony.
::Coach Pain
Was My Girl by The temptations. And sometimes that song would come on and I would just be emotionally bawling and sometimes hard to imagine what my soul people would say.
::Coach Pain
Is this her talking to you? Or she says she's there with you. So I have to sometimes turn it around
::Coach Pain
and use it as a positive thing. And just remember the good times. But man, it hurts, it hurts. It really hurts.
::Coach Pain
And you're still,
::Coach Pain
It's it's it's it's something that you can never like,
::Pat McCalla
that's the dumb thing about that
::Coach Pain
Yeah,
::Pat McCalla
right.
::Coach Pain
No magic.
::Coach Pain
No, no, listen, you could put a Band-Aid on an open wound. Doesn't mean it is going to work, you know? Doesn't matter. We we are again. We're built on emotions. Men, women don't matter. How you understand my. When I say again, my pain has became my passion. I can say things to people. And people would think, oh, that sounds scary.
::Coach Pain
And I would tell people I can motivate an art form to come out of the ground. It doesn't matter to me, you can say to do whatever doesn't matter. The problem is, is that when I mentioned earlier about laziness,
::Coach Pain
we are guilty of that. We don't have to be lazy. We choose to be lazy. I work hard every day, open and close my business every day.
::Coach Pain
My wife works hard every day. Work is worked. When people say work hard, not smart or work smart, not hard, excuse me. And I come back and I say, why not do both?
::Coach Pain
Where this where where where people get this analogy is crazy. Like works more out of heart, right?
::Coach Pain
You do.
::Coach Pain
Both. Yeah. You don't have to be.
::Coach Pain
Did this person. Well, I worked I worked smart, but not hard. But the person is hungry and wants to get to that level. They doing both because they're going to outsmart you and they're going to outwork you because you too busy being smart.
::Pat McCalla
Yeah. That's so true. So
::Pat McCalla
let's land there for a moment. You were talking about that before we turn the mics
::Coach Pain
on. Yes. I
::Pat McCalla
you think one of the biggest struggles today or the biggest problems today is
::Coach Pain
absolutely.
::Coach Pain
I agree with that. Yeah, 100%.
::Coach Pain
That's a culture.
::Coach Pain
I think it's a it's more than a cultural. I think it's a human thing.
::Coach Pain
I think the problem is, is just that sometimes we pick and choose what we want to do, right? I want to do this. I want to do that. I don't like that. I won't do that. It's more about the want and less about the need.
::Coach Pain
I need to eat to miss.
::Coach Pain
I don't need coffee to start my day,
::Coach Pain
but there's a coffee shop on every corner. Nothing against people that drink coffee, but you don't need it. You just want it.
::Coach Pain
You understand what I'm saying?
::Coach Pain
You're pointing it. And you know how much I know.
::Coach Pain
You know? Know what I can. But my point is, is that we depend on things that we don't always necessarily need. Now, the lazy mentality comes into effect when
::Coach Pain
it's something that doesn't interest us to do.
::Coach Pain
I like to work out. You obviously like to work out. We are in the fitness. I'm a coach. I train military civilians versus first responders.
::Coach Pain
But then I come back to
::Coach Pain
it's a privilege, man, to get up out of you be. It's a blessing
::Coach Pain
to be able to start up your car and go and do things that you don't normally like to do. It's okay to challenge yourself. Look at what my shirt says.
::Pat McCalla
Being comfortable
::Pat McCalla
can put you in a dangerous
::Coach Pain
It can.
::Coach Pain
It can. Yeah. People are. You don't look, you're dangerous to yourself when you're lazy.
::Coach Pain
I don't like to work up. I don't like to lift weights. I don't like to run. I'm just a runner. I just lift weights, I do. You are a one dimensional person who has no idea where you want to go. But I go right back to what if.
::Coach Pain
Yeah.
::Coach Pain
I coach you to train you to prepare yourself for what? Make it happen. Yeah, well, I don't do it. I don't I'm not worried about that. I'm a lover, not a fighter. You are a fighter because you couldn't get out of bed. So are you fighting to get up? So guess what? You are a fighter. Those are your demons dragging you down.
::Coach Pain
And so, yeah, people are lazy. I don't mean it as a whole, but it is what it is, and it is a bad thing and we need to change that.
::Pat McCalla
and I like what you said coach Pain. You know when I said do you think it's a cultural thing and goes bigger than that human
::Coach Pain
it's a human thing?
::Coach Pain
You Coach Pain?
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
You deal with laziness
::Coach Pain
All the time. Absolutely. I say this,
::Coach Pain
don't depend on my alarm clock, for example. Right. People say my alarm didn't go off. You don't have no idea how many times I've heard that. And some of my colleagues know how much that makes mind
::Coach Pain
gum's itch. I can't stand it.
::Pat McCalla
if you start training me and, I show up late and I tell him, I better not say my alarm didn't go off and
::Coach Pain
That would be the worst. That'd be the worst mistake you can make to me, because then I'll come back to this. Right.
::Coach Pain
Let me write that. No.
::Coach Pain
Yes, I said fat, because here's the thing. We depend on machines. We depend on a machine. Let me. Why would you wait for an alarm to tell you to get up? If God himself has giving you the air in your lungs heart that you have to beat,
::Coach Pain
that's your alarm. God said, get up, not the alarm. Get up.
::Coach Pain
My heart's beating. That's God saying, get up. My lungs are working. That's God saying, get up.
::Pat McCalla
on.
::Pat McCalla
So one of the things you mentioned earlier too, when you were talking about and I didn't, I didn't miss this. You were talking about competing
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
we end up like competing against other people
::Coach Pain
Yes.
::Pat McCalla
competition
::Coach Pain
Yeah. Yeah. Please.
::Pat McCalla
agree, I think sometimes it's unhealthy how much we compete against
::Coach Pain
Amen, brother.
::Pat McCalla
and we don't realize that our greatest competition is herself.
::Pat McCalla
Right.
::Coach Pain
is here.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Coach Pain
Well, here's where I am with that. We are so drawn to what we see. Because the eyes can play tricks too, as well as the mind. And we are too busy looking at other people and what they look like, what they wearing. They drive the business they own. Who knows? But what's for you is for you.
::Coach Pain
Was for them, is for them. How they got it, the way they got it. We don't know. Maybe you do, maybe you don't.
::Coach Pain
But why not just embrace who you are and build on that. The sand on the beach lays flat, is rough, is soft. But if you want to build a sandcastle, how do you build it? It starts with you.
::Coach Pain
His sandcastle is his story. My sandcastle is my story. It still has a foundation. Just because your house
::Coach Pain
is looking one way doesn't mean my house has to look that way.
::Coach Pain
We're all built different. We look different, we walk different. We talk different. We believe in different things. No two bodies are like, you know, it's not a one size, you know, society, but the problem is, when you hear people say, I want to look like her, I said, why I don't look like you.
::Coach Pain
Yeah, I want to be like you when I grew up. Don't be like me because I already made my bed.
::Coach Pain
Make your own. Yeah.
::Coach Pain
Be better than me. I tell my kids I don't, I don't be like me and your mom be better than us.
::Pat McCalla
So let me take, let me take one kind of one realm or area that's not in the working out
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You do it. And I used to do it. Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
This is and this is just to to make your point,
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
I spend a lot of time when I was in my 20s imitating other speakers.
::Coach Pain
Yes, like a lot of speakers do, right? Yes.
::Pat McCalla
when I really kind of got in the groove is when I started asking like, who am I as a communicator? So for me, it became I'm a I was a narrative speaker. So when I realized, like, I'm a storyteller,
::Coach Pain
::Pat McCalla
you
::Pat McCalla
you have a gift. And very few people could
::Coach Pain
do it.
::Coach Pain
I appreciate go in.
::Pat McCalla
you don't necessarily have notes or anything.
::Pat McCalla
And I and I'm not saying
::Coach Pain
it's okay. You know, I'm saying, hey everybody.
::Coach Pain
I don't think.
::Coach Pain
That's you.
::Coach Pain
That's who I am.
::Coach Pain
That's how.
::Coach Pain
Amen, brother.
::Pat McCalla
When I found out, when I quit looking around and trying to imitate other
::Coach Pain
Yes,
::Pat McCalla
God make me? That's when I really got in. That's kind of your point,
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir. Well, that's the beauty of it. And, I mean, I think it's a it's like looking at a rainbow,
::Coach Pain
you see the rain, it powers, it comes down. But what's attractive about a rainbow is the colors, the multicolored in the rainbow. Just one color you like? Oh, yeah. Seen that before? It's rare to see a rainbow when the sky.
::Coach Pain
But when you see it and it's beautiful, you like. Wow.
::Coach Pain
You understand? Exactly, exactly. It's different. It's unique, it's colorful. It's more Thai, it's variety. We are a variety species. It's like we're so stuck in this mindset of thinking that he did it. I'm going to do it. He jumped in the ocean. I'm going to jump in the ocean.
::Coach Pain
There's a lot of sharks out there and you jump in the ocean. You better learn how to swim quick because everybody don't know how to swim. You go ahead and jump in the ocean with the tens of thousands of people. I'm gonna just walk on the beach while y'all are out there figuring it out. I already made up my mind.
::Coach Pain
I'm going to just walk on the beach and have my peace. When I need to go in, I'm going to go in. I don't need to jump because you jump.
::Pat McCalla
Yeah.
::Coach Pain
You know, and I think that's a mistake that we make as a society. I don't believe in the saying of, you know, most people always buy into this whole thing.
::Coach Pain
You know, the greatest compliment is imitation. No, you're a thief.
::Coach Pain
that's what you are. You're a thief
::Coach Pain
because you had no originality. We can always learn from each other by taking. Makes you a thief. It's not a compliment. You have no uniqueness about yourself and you're not original. And for people to follow that, I don't understand it because again, going right back to what I said, be the best of who you are and those that believe in you will follow you.
::Coach Pain
Let them follow you. Don't take from this person and that person. Use it. Get credit for it. And everybody's jumping through hoops about you not knowing where the sources. I want to go to the source. Why would I follow somebody who has no ideas about who they are?
::Pat McCalla
Yeah.
::Pat McCalla
You know
::Pat McCalla
We're both, men of faith.
::Coach Pain
210
::Pat McCalla
is a great verse that speaks in to what you're
::Coach Pain
talking about.
::Pat McCalla
for we are created in Christ is where is workmanship.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
y originally written in Greek: ::Coach Pain
ago.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Coach Pain
It
::Pat McCalla
actually means that we are God's workmanship. His poem, his symphony, his work of art.
::Pat McCalla
It's to
::Coach Pain
your point. Yes, sir,
::Pat McCalla
I am unique. I am a symphony, a work of art that God created, and there's no one ever has been or ever will be like
::Coach Pain
Amen, brother.
::Pat McCalla
same with any other human that you see out there. And what you're saying is you're encouraging people to to
::Coach Pain
Dig into themselves. Yeah, absolutely. Well, think about it. You have kids. I have adult kids. Obviously. I mean, you have their kids. My daughter and son are like comparing apples and oranges, right? So they are two different people. They know when they comes from they know who they are. But one goes love, the other one goes right.
::Coach Pain
And mom and dad in the middle. Like what? And what? How did what did we. And like anybody, you know, you up and down, left and right. But what I mean is
::Coach Pain
we're God's children. For those that are believers, he is a father. We are the children. All of us are different. We all have something that makes it.
::Coach Pain
Listen, if you were created, you were created for a reason. When you don't know what your life is, you need to work on that. There are a lot of people out here in pain and a lot of people that are hurting. Like when I talk about my pain is my passion. Some people don't know how to turn a pain and to fire into passion, into motivation or determination or willingness.
::Coach Pain
Some people allow their pain to destroy them, and it takes from them and it hurts them and each them alive, and they don't know how to direct it. You got to learn the art of misdirection. I learned that if it's coming at me at 100 miles an hour, I go back to saying I am my father's son.
::Coach Pain
I remind myself, because I know where I come from, not just from Miles high, but I was brought into this world.
::Coach Pain
And I'm in. I'm in my room, my environment, and I'm learning because the greatest teachers in the world are people.
::Pat McCalla
Yeah.
::Coach Pain
I don't have to pick up a book. I can just sit there and go out there and stand out there. You can stand right at the corner right there for about five minutes. You're going to see something crazy or stupid happen, and you just absorb that.
::Coach Pain
Every day is a lesson every single day. And your greatest teacher, one of your greatest teachers or people, but the greatest teacher is life.
::Pat McCalla
Yeah.
::Pat McCalla
Well, and I believe that I mean, by my story. If you back, I didn't grow up. You know, I have a I have parents that I really love, but my dad ended up, you know, having a double
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life. Understood.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
so I remember when I was a young man and I was about to get married, we got married young 19.
::Pat McCalla
We celebrate 34 years this July
::Coach Pain
Congrats.
::Pat McCalla
But I realize I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is to be a a real husband.
::Coach Pain
Oh, I
::Pat McCalla
don't know what it is to be real, father.
::Coach Pain
can tell you that.
::Coach Pain
And so what I did is I went I
::Pat McCalla
looked for some guys that are like, that's the kind of father I want to be
::Coach Pain
Yeah. I sat down and said, teach me. Yeah. And like
::Pat McCalla
you're saying, some of our greatest teachers in life are
::Coach Pain
just people.
::Coach Pain
I'd watch people, you know, I it's funny, I had a
::Coach Pain
on one of my posts, getting ready, sent out on my YouTube channel about relationships, about, you know, people, getting hurt and rebounding. And I'm just paraphrasing is and always say that if you don't have the ability to love yourself, no one is going to love you.
::Coach Pain
You can be out there chasing love. It can hurt you. And in, you know, this is the and I'm just speaking. Everybody has their beliefs. I don't believe.
::Coach Pain
The gift that God brought in this world, which is a woman. There's no woman on this earth should be chasing a man. I tell him I don't want to ever chase somebody.
::Pat McCalla
okay?
::Coach Pain
He said he that found a wife is a good thing, not the other way around.
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we're wired
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Right. And women, women are
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what they are. Men are what they are.
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But the thing about love is that we chase it and we don't know why. You know, love hurts, love cost. Love is a reality check. And it can sting
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a preacher did a position.
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On this and have been.
::Coach Pain
Married. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Whether you're married or you're in a relationship, you have to understand it's not just you and your relationship. What you believe the other person may not. And you don't have to think alike, to be alike, to be together equally yoked means equally yoked. That doesn't mean my wife thinks the way I think 100% of the times.
::Coach Pain
I don't think the way she thinks 100% of the time. The beauty of it is that they say opposites attract, and it does, because I don't want
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a replica of me. I need the balance. Right? And that's life. But that's life. It's like, again, going back into working out if you're just a runner and then stop running so much because then I'm going to ask you, if you tell me you're run, I'm going to say, what are you running from?
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Or what are you running to? I don't mind you being a runner. That's great. But there are other things you can do to stay fit. We have to stop this. I'm this person and that's it. No. You are a magnificent, amazing, universal creation. Step outside of your comfort zone.
::Pat McCalla
believe that, yeah,
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Stop with this. All I do. This is all I used to do.
::Coach Pain
So you're saying you used up? Stop. Used to doing it. Just do it. Stop trying and just do it was try and doing for you.
::Pat McCalla
You talked about. You just mentioned it, stepping out of your comfort
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zone. Yes, sir. You're
::Pat McCalla
talking about, you know, how
::Pat McCalla
lazy we can tend to
::Coach Pain
Amen.
::Pat McCalla
human thing, but stepping in your comfort zone.
::Pat McCalla
do think that even as parents, it's one of our primary roles
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
our kids step out of the comfort zone sometimes,
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
it's how we learn things.
::Pat McCalla
And,
::Pat McCalla
do you do that? Like, let's say you're talking to a bunch of adults that are listening this
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
And I do think that we become a society, like you said, it's human nature,
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as humans, also
::Pat McCalla
society. I think that's really gotten to this. It's about how I can get the most comfortable. So what would be some of your recommendations for our listeners?
::Pat McCalla
For me, sitting across the table
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir,
::Pat McCalla
on how we can effectively step out of our comfort zones.
::Coach Pain
Well, the way I feel is this
::Coach Pain
if something, God forbid, bad was to happen, how would you respond to it? Are you prepared to endure it? Are you prepared to attack? Are you prepared to do what's necessary to make it through? You know, when people say, I survived, I say, no, you didn't survive. You lived. There is no survival.
::Coach Pain
You know there is no to me. I survived. No you left.
::Coach Pain
Behind. You are a poet. I'm going to say.
::Coach Pain
Yeah. I don't have words. No, I just I just don't I don't buy into this, this propaganda thinking that we all we just. Yeah. I'm not a survivor. I'm a lifer. And I'm living, I'm living, I'm alive. I don't have time to be lazy. Every second counts. Every minute counts. Every hour counts. Every day counts. Every week counts.
::Coach Pain
Every month counts. The 12 months out of the year it counts. Do you realize the moment you walk out that door and go to your next destination? There's things in between that can stop you, and you just think you can just go about your day uncomfortable because life is just so good. Life is life. Even rich people got problems.
::Pat McCalla
that's your point. Your point is that when that difficult time comes to get through it,
::Coach Pain
Get through it, man.
::Coach Pain
And moving.
::Coach Pain
On. Attack, attack attack attack. Listen, I don't like to do this, I don't. Let me ask you something. Does it look like it'll hurt you and build you? Or does it make you feel like you'll be dead and done? I usually tell my clients I have to break you before I make you.
::Coach Pain
Some people will get a little intimidated by how I said that, but listen to it.
::Coach Pain
I didn't say breaking you just in general. I'm breaking you weakness. I'm breaking you. Excuse is I'm breaking your doubts. I'm breaking your fears. I gotta break you. Then I'm going to make you and my client, who's a law enforcement from Mesa, she's a basically like a d, I know, and she's been training me for years, and she uses that quote doing for the police academy.
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I gotta make you.
::Coach Pain
I gotta break you before I make you. I'm sorry. I gotta break you before I make you. And that's the idea. It's like people are afraid to step into that fire.
::Pat McCalla
because the breaking is uncomfortable.
::Coach Pain
Yeah, you gotta get out. Listen, you can not listen. I don't care who you are. If you had an easy life, you never had one.
::Coach Pain
I'ma just be honest with you. Whoever your listeners are, I'm telling you, I'm telling the world. If you had an easy life, you never had one. Living the dream. When are you going to have a nightmare?
::Coach Pain
I'm living the dream. You never had a nightmare. Wait. Do you have one? Because you've been living the dream so much, you never had a nightmare. I. You never had yourself put to the ground. You never ate crow. But you've been eating steaks all your life. You never tasted dirt. You never been knocked down. But now you super Superman, because somebody put you up there.
::Coach Pain
You didn't work your way up there. You got put up there. You cheated your way to success. Success doesn't owe us anything.
::Coach Pain
We got to earn it. I kid you, me, as long as you alive. You being taught lessons. Are you prepared for those lessons? Are you prepared to get knocked down? Are you prepared to fail? I don't like to fail.
::Coach Pain
I want to sell it. No, I don't like to lose. Get over yourself. Lose.
::Pat McCalla
You know. And Coach Pain, you just again jumping over to parenting right
::Coach Pain
No problem
::Pat McCalla
Such an important thing to try to instill in our children
::Coach Pain
Yes.
::Coach Pain
I think we live
::Pat McCalla
in a culture in a world like you said, it's human nature. But but we've kind of moved toward trying to make life comfortable for our children. What I think a lot of generations, it was like I need to prepare them for life.
::Pat McCalla
How do I prepare them
::Coach Pain
for life?
::Coach Pain
I love you, make.
::Coach Pain
Me feel some pain.
::Coach Pain
I love you, brother.
::Pat McCalla
some hard things. I'm not going to go talk to that coach that is doing something that's making their life
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
my son, well, you're a young man now. You go talk
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to them.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
that's what parenting
::Coach Pain
Well.
::Coach Pain
The thing about parenting is that
::Coach Pain
There's no rulebook to it. There's no book. You know, people say, well, how do you beat your you. There is no way. You know, it's kind of like you learn as you go. Yeah.
::Coach Pain
And every kid's different.
::Coach Pain
And every kid's different, right. So but it the beauty of it is that we have to stop allowing the things that are not the look. You want your kid to learn the hard things as well as the good things, but when you're constantly feeding them things, that's not helping them to grow because you can't grow without pain.
::Coach Pain
You've heard it before.
::Coach Pain
No pain, no gain. You gotta hurt man. How in the world can a child become a great adult if all they've been given is an easy life? There? You don't deserve easy. Yeah. Okay. As again,
::Coach Pain
I speak from a spiritual, refined perspective.
::Coach Pain
Yeah. Again.
::Pat McCalla
because you you again.
::Coach Pain
Yeah. No problem.
::Pat McCalla
word. So you throw out a line. Sometimes it's like we could spend another hour talking about that line you just.
::Coach Pain
Yeah,
::Coach Pain
Why would you want it? Easy life.
::Coach Pain
Yeah.
::Coach Pain
Why? I say
::Coach Pain
because, listen, we're living in some some unique times, man. Times are tough. Times are hard. It's really scary for a lot of people. But you haven't train yourself. You haven't adapted yourself to what you are involved in because you are too busy looking at your phone and wondering what the next gossip thing is going on.
::Coach Pain
You're too busy doing other fun things, but you're not training for what could happen.
::Coach Pain
Look, fitness is a necessity
::Coach Pain
mentally, physically, spiritually. We need everything. You can't tell me that. I don't worry about things. Yes you do.
::Coach Pain
I'm not afraid of anything. Yes you are. We are afraid. We're human. You're afraid to get up in the morning because you're too lazy.
::Coach Pain
See, I'm not lazy. Yes you are.
::Coach Pain
Well, why do I have to get up in the morning? I don't need to get up. I want to get my sleep. Okay? Keep sleeping because success is passing you by. Why are you sleeping? I'm working.
::Coach Pain
That's the mistake that people make, young and old. Get up because the other person. That.
::Coach Pain
That's why that smart heart stuff. I don't agree with it. Words, Martin hour. I don't like it.
::Coach Pain
You can put a thousand people in my face. And I tell them, yeah,
::Coach Pain
that's the craziest analogy I've ever heard in my life. Stop it. Because. Because people that have won championships that I made it beyond and beyond success. They weren't just working smart.
::Coach Pain
Yeah, you got to work in.
::Pat McCalla
get one of your videos to say that. Because I listen to a lot
::Coach Pain
yes.
::Pat McCalla
and I never heard you do the smarter, harder thing. I'm
::Coach Pain
sure.
::Coach Pain
Oh man, I got it on my swag. Haha, I don't, I don't care, I, I listen, I love, listen, I love
::Coach Pain
like, I like I don't I have to question where I am I life, I sometimes question like what am I doing here? Not just in this world. Like how what am I doing wrong? What am I said?
::Coach Pain
Why have I not made it to the next level in my life? I'm over 50. My shorter days in front of me but longer days are behind me. Why am I not getting these opportunities that other people are getting in? And who am I to judge them per se? You know they're here. I'm not. They're making it. I'm not.
::Coach Pain
I'm struggling. They're not, you know, and then I have to come back and they say, stop being shy and just tell it like it is, because it seemed like for some, most parts of the world, they want to hear it. You know, I don't need to use profanity. I'm not condemning people that do that. I don't need to,
::Coach Pain
make, you know, nasty gestures to people to get people to hear me.
::Coach Pain
Like I said, I don't need to say something so vulgar and so out of place to get you to hear me. But how do you get people's attention? Most of the times you do things that are out of character to get their attention. I don't want to do that because you just mentioned something about, you know, about spirituality, Christ, a One Direction.
::Coach Pain
He walked one path, he talked one way. He didn't change it just to appease everybody else. I'm not here for you to like me,
::Coach Pain
I'm here to get you to see that you need to love yourself and see your true potential. Because so many people are afraid of their truth. So they rather believe a lie.
::Coach Pain
A lie tells better stories than the truth. People hate the truth. I don't want to hear that. You don't want me to tell you that you're lazy. That is so offensive. You making me feel so me. Oh, I don't you. I don't like you because you. How dare you? And why are you saying it? Because it's the truth.
::Coach Pain
You lazy. You stop being lazy. How are you going to tell your child you can do it? You could be the best. Come on, we see it best in soccer. That's in football. Best in school. Keep pushing, keep going, keep going. You know what my son said to me on Father's Day? I was having breakfast with him, my wife and I,
::Coach Pain
and he said that I don't want to give you your card.
::Coach Pain
I just want to tell you how I feel.
::Coach Pain
And he sat right there across that table and
::Coach Pain
spoke to me how he appreciate me as his dad, what I've taught him, how I work, what he sees in me. You know how powerful that is for us, a man's son to look at his father as his hero. You know how that made me feel as a man?
::Coach Pain
He had to look at somebody else. Or a TV or a basketball player, a football player, a celebrity. I am the guy I show my son, my daughter, who also, you know, gave me a Father's Day gift. She bought me flowers and all that stuff. You know, that's my daughter. But they see me not just a father as a father, but as a man,
::Coach Pain
as a man who's been knocked down, as a man who's been homeless, as a man who's been hurt, as a man who's been through hell and back.
::Coach Pain
I've seen it. I'm not seen. I seen it all. But I seen enough. But I never quit. And I always let them see me. Not the vulnerability of it, but just that, hey, man, I don't feel like getting up, but I gotta get up. I don't feel like getting in that car and driving from point A to point B, but I gotta get in that car and start that ignition because it ain't going to move by itself.
::Coach Pain
I got places to be. I don't want to be there, but I gotta get there.
::Pat McCalla
and Coach Pain, your message is so on point with what this, this podcast is about. We talk about the power and complexity of human choice
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
again,
::Pat McCalla
from my worldview, my biblical worldview, I believe that humans are the pinnacle of God's
::Coach Pain
Amen.
::Pat McCalla
that we are the one things that we don't run by instinct like animals do.
::Pat McCalla
We have the power of choice.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
I can choose to turn that car on. I can choose to leave it
::Coach Pain
as man. Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
stay in bed. I got all of these choices. But the choices I make will eventually make me
::Coach Pain
Amen.
::Pat McCalla
And that's your message.
::Coach Pain
Yes.
::Pat McCalla
making the right choice.
::Pat McCalla
Then
::Coach Pain
you know how much power we have.
::Coach Pain
You realize how much power we. I'm not talking about financial power. I'm not talking about, you know, being the biggest guy in the gym. And you're stronger than this guy or the fat. I'm not talking about that. We are a beautiful creation that is just being wasted on doing nothing with it.
::Coach Pain
You know what I mean? It's like when you said to me, that's a gift, why waste it
::Coach Pain
when you have something? Like I say, you're born into this world, but God, don't make mistakes.
::Coach Pain
When he made you, he made you for a reason. When he made me, he made. He didn't say it was going to be easy. We all got a cross to carry.
::Coach Pain
Every living human being young. Oh doesn't matter. Stop walking this earth like you can't be touched because you care. Because believe me, you can be flat on your back. And if you don't know what that ground feels like, you don't know nothing. You just lucky. And somebody prayed a little bit harder for you. And that's why you're in a position you may be, and maybe you earn it and maybe you did.
::Coach Pain
But I have a lot more respect for you if you just learn to struggle a little bit. I have a little bit more respect for you. If you learn to hurt a little bit, how can you say you know a victory if you never lost? How can you say you're strong if you've never been weak? A baby is weak.
::Coach Pain
It cries and moans. It groans, it crawls. It doesn't have any support. But after a while, that baby getting tired of crawling, going to stand up. Sooner or later you're going to start wobbling. You're going to hit it and you go forward. I can do all that stuff. And guess what? You're going to look at mom. I'm going to look at dad.
::Coach Pain
Mom and dad is going to do what we are all children, no matter what. Yeah. Doesn't matter. We always learning in life as a lesson.
::Pat McCalla
You know, you have your little phrases that are pet peeves to you, like and you've mentioned a couple of them.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
pet peeves of mine, one of the phrases I don't like is overnight success.
::Coach Pain
Amen, brother. She's an
::Pat McCalla
overnight success or she's an overnight
::Coach Pain
Amen, brother.
::Coach Pain
You look
::Pat McCalla
into their story and I promise you they're not.
::Coach Pain
Come on. If
::Pat McCalla
they're successful, if they're doing something great, you're going to go dig into their story. And for some reason, the media loves to try to paint
::Coach Pain
Come on. Overnight. Amen. But it's great. It is. It is absolutely holy. Absolutely I love that. And you know, you know, I use Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, it's, phrase when he said I fell over and over and over and over again. And that is why I succeed. You know,
::Coach Pain
the way I train, like my, my, my physical program training is more like I say, practical.
::Coach Pain
I'm more of a practical fitness guy. There are a thousand gyms in, in Arizona. Right. And I'm, I'm built on practical, you know, because what, you know, scenario stuff. But what I love about this business I'm in and whether it's motivational fitness is that you get to a point where you get to know what your true capabilities are when you're tested.
::Coach Pain
So when people say easy life, like I said, I can't stand it. Living a dream, don't like it. It's okay to be happy. But when are you sad? I don't let nothing get to me. Things are going to get to you. Something's coming after you. You're not that and untouchable. Everybody deserves to get pushed down or up or whatever.
::Coach Pain
We all deserve that. Because in my mind, I feel like when you in that comfort zone again, the moment comes and you're not ready. So yes, I think to a certain extent we have to find a solution to our problem. And what is the problem overall? Like you said, when you talk about overnight success, there are a lot of people out here.
::Coach Pain
You will. How will I say it? How do they what did he what did I do? What am I doing wrong? What did you ask yourself? What is just not your season? Maybe you may not ever make it. You know, as hard as you work, you may not ever get there. Then matter. But nothing in my mind can condemn effort.
::Coach Pain
That's why I don't like try.
::Coach Pain
I love effort if you fail and then I love you for giving up trying. Is this a cop out? Effort? Is everything. Cop you cop out when you try, I
::Coach Pain
try, I tried.
::Coach Pain
But you have I.
::Coach Pain
Try, absolutely I tried,
::Coach Pain
I tried. No, you quit it. You quit before you begun. That's see effort. You killed your effort and you didn't.
::Coach Pain
Like I said, I used to. I don't like it, I tried, I can't stand it, I could, but I won't. Confused all of these things is always something that gets in your way. Not showing up on time, you know, punctuality, all of those things.
::Coach Pain
I get it. Things happen, things come up. But when it becomes a habit,
::Coach Pain
you said it earlier about your choices. You become that. You know what you do. You become a product of your environment. Stop allowing things that's not helping you to grow, to hinder you from being successful. Success doesn't always mean how much money you got in your bank account.
::Coach Pain
I said earlier, even people that are rich, that have all the fortune are just as miserable as a poor person on a corner. You understand? Because you can't you can't tell me that. Because if you leave here, when you leave here, you can't take it with you anyway. Yeah.
::Coach Pain
What are you going to do with it when you're going?
::Coach Pain
Well, I'm going to have my pie on earth. I can, I don't care about my pan has got. But like I said, at the end of the day, you know, you only got so much time. You got that much time to breathe. What are you going to do with it? You born your lifeline on the tombstone. You die.
::Coach Pain
You're ending your expiration. What have you done? And between that, that is your lifeline. Yeah, it's an unknown. And people need. What? Oh, you was such a great person. Did you know them 20 years ago? No. Now you know who's a great person? I'm not a great person. I never said I was. I made mistakes, I fail, I done things I probably shouldn't, I never did, no, I hadn't done anything.
::Coach Pain
And, you know, that gave me a casual aid or, you know, things like that.
::Coach Pain
But I never gave myself a real chance until I start to realize that I can lay here and do nothing and kill myself, or I can get up and do something.
::Coach Pain
Listen, life is not over until they put rose petals on your box.
::Coach Pain
If you ain't six feet under, get up.
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::Pat McCalla
Coach Pain, one of the things that you've spent a lot of your life doing and it's something that's that your heart beats for is
::Pat McCalla
our military, our first
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
What kind of stuff do you do with them?
::Coach Pain
Well, this goes way back. I've been doing work with these guys for over 15 plus years now, and. And
::Coach Pain
because I come from a military family. Right. So I've always been intrigued.
::Coach Pain
You know, I was just raised by. Of course, you had the women, and then you had the men and
::Coach Pain
that military.
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir. No, sir. Last word at your mouth. Let it be, sir, I was raised I. That's how I was raised.
::Coach Pain
But going further than that, I working with the military and it goes with this fast forward. Because I've been in industry for so long, I just had this military, a militant demeanor that either instilled some kind of an intimidation way of things, or people looked at it as a sense of motivation.
::Coach Pain
So I had the opportunity. Yes, yes.
::Pat McCalla
Because when you were talking, I was we were doing this interview
::Coach Pain
and. Yes, and
::Pat McCalla
watched your stuff and I
::Coach Pain
said, yeah,
::Pat McCalla
I can just I can close my eyes and picture you with one of those D-I hats on,
::Coach Pain
Like, like I said, I did. Oh, I do, I do, I do. And I've even had the opportunity delivered and going into the story of working with the, you know, Navy guys, my, boss I work with now again, he was a retired Navy sea, Navy,
::Coach Pain
Seal team two. He was a lieutenant commander for Seal team two.
::Coach Pain
I was doing some work
::Coach Pain
and an event, and I was running a workout program and things like that. And, a lot of people with working and doing their thing. And he just happened to when another colleague who's retired said, I didn't know anything about love, how I was running my workouts and how I was talking him. First thing you asked me, say what?
::Coach Pain
Braintree. I said, you, Brian, sir, he said, I can't tell what you run in that group right there, he said. And then we just kind of go hit it off and get in the business card. And I saw the training on, on the car and I'm like, oh, you guys are the real deal, you know? So I felt like a kid in a candy store.
::Coach Pain
And, fast forward, I was introduced to do a, work where I work with, Naval Special Warfare, which is. And so it's a program that's designed to help develop young adults who want to go into Navy Academy or Navy Seals or, you know, military, different branches. Some of these young people were branching off, going in different directions, whether it's Marines or Army or, you know, Air Force, you name it.
::Coach Pain
And I'm working alongside with active and retired, you know, people and, pretty bonafide legit people. And I was just honored to be around that. And, it opened up some doors for me, and they will find me in and go to different places throughout the United States. And, not just on the motivational side, but the physical side.
::Coach Pain
And they were very impressed with that. And we're really excited.
::Coach Pain
When you say that. Yeah.
::Coach Pain
Yeah.
::Coach Pain
You were physically.
::Coach Pain
Physically training him. Oh yeah. And and I still were. Absolutely. Yeah. They, they were very intrigued with what like most people see me and like they, they see this guy and then people that are, you know, obviously military or whatever, I can relate and connect more with them because they understand it.
::Pat McCalla
Your mindset.
::Coach Pain
it's it's it's it's the mind.
::Coach Pain
Listen,
::Coach Pain
when you think about when I work with these guys, I even had the opportunity to go to Coronado and going to Bud's base, where they actually trained for Seals. And I had an invite. I stayed at the naval base. And, you know, you don't get that invite like somebody like you, right? So you got to know somebody to know somebody to get that opportunity.
::Coach Pain
And again, my family was all invited and everything and one thing that I admire about these guys and anyone who served, is that it's the mindset that they focus on. You can have all the muscles and all the endurance in the world, but if your mind is weak, you're done. And a lot of people. And that's why I use the mentality of being lazy and stuff like that.
::Coach Pain
So it brought me to other places throughout the world. You know, I went to the UK, had an opportunity to work with SAS guys. Nelson.
::Coach Pain
Had who's and I've had work with Marines and I bad dudes, Force Recon, you name it. These are people that I've had made connections with, and they just inspired me.
::Coach Pain
And I was like, man, never had an opportunity to get that opportunity to be there. But I made the biggest mistake when someone said, you know, thank you for your service. And I would say, I don't serve you. Wait a minute. He's kind of popped me inside my head and he said, you do serve. You didn't serve differently.
::Coach Pain
You don't have to wear a uniform to be a soldier.
::Coach Pain
My grandfather taught me that. Right on. He said, you don't have to wear a uniform. So we all serve. And that's why I use the term I serve those that do.
::Coach Pain
So,
::Pat McCalla
Yeah. And especially that. And I think that's so important for our, our, our listener because they know anybody who's been listening to our
::Coach Pain
Yeah.
::Pat McCalla
very long knows
::Pat McCalla
all of us Joe who is actually the one who this story is about, our podcast
::Coach Pain
Yeah. Yeah.
::Pat McCalla
masterminded the biggest sports scandal that
::Coach Pain
Yeah. For I went to prison. Yeah.
::Pat McCalla
He and,
::Pat McCalla
Steven Haddock Smith,
::Coach Pain
Yeah, yeah.
::Pat McCalla
they went to prison kind of. Their life is a redemption story. But but he has a passion for a first responders are protectors. I do, our whole team does.
::Coach Pain
Yeah. So I
::Pat McCalla
love that. But what you're saying is we. If you weren't in the military or you don't serve as a first responder, you can still serve
::Coach Pain
by you ways.
::Coach Pain
We it's our duty. Yeah I agree when I when you go back listen
::Coach Pain
not against people going on hikes you know things like that. If they say a heat advisory and someone has to go up there and get you. Yeah. Think about that. They want to go home to. Yeah, yeah. Why would you put other people in danger?
::Coach Pain
Because you're doing things you shouldn't do. I honor them by what I do and how I carry myself when I work with them. I'm a part of that unit. I may be over here and they may be there, but I've learned to get I've gotten the respect because how I conduct myself, because character, dignity, code of conduct that goes a long way then, and people don't understand that.
::Coach Pain
And true people that serve, whether they're retired or currently serving, they know what I'm talking about. You have to have a certain code of conduct and how you direct yourself and how you live your life. Integrity is everything. Wearing a uniform doesn't justify anything. Is the man or woman who wears it?
::Coach Pain
you understand what I'm saying? People need to understand that.
::Coach Pain
Yeah. So when I say I serve, I serve, but I serve differently. I work with these guys, all right? I've had opportunities to go to bases and train and be a guest instructor, you name it. And I'm watching these guys watching me, and they like, man, you know, I love this guy. And I'm honored,
::Coach Pain
you know, because you got the yeah, you got that.
::Coach Pain
You got to have a certain kind of
::Coach Pain
think about you for them to bring you into their world, you know what I mean? And it's not faking it to make it, you know, because I stand on it, I live it, I do it, I'm a soldier. No matter what you think. I'm not. I may not soldier the way you soldier, but I soldier through life every single day.
::Pat McCalla
Coach Pain, you said something early in our. And I jotted down in my notes
::Coach Pain
Here. Yes. Back around. Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
but I was going to mention warrior mindset
::Coach Pain
Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
you talked about you didn't use that exact word, but that's what you're really talking about.
::Coach Pain
Yes.
::Pat McCalla
whether you're talking to a high school football team or the Navy Seals or the Marines
::Coach Pain
Yeah. Yes, sir.
::Pat McCalla
trying to get them to have this warrior
::Coach Pain
Yeah. Because I mean, think about it. I mean, if you want to be
::Coach Pain
in the military, let's say I have clients right now that I'm training and prepping to go, you know, military first responder, you name it. I don't have to go into the name. And when I'm working with them, I always come back to the common denominator, like, why are you doing this?
::Coach Pain
You know, and everybody has a way. I don't have to tell you the why, but they have a reason. Are you doing it for this? Are you doing it for that? Are you doing for the glory? Are you doing it to say you're good? This or whatever? But I always come back to the warrior mindset. What does that mean?
::Coach Pain
It's not about you. It's about the man or woman next to you.
::Coach Pain
I may not be in the trenches, but I'm here. I am a first responder. I need to be fit and ready just in case. Just in case that first that firefighters out there all by himself and he needs a hand to help another person. I am a first responder.
::Coach Pain
I'm a first responder to me and my loved ones. In case I can't get to my phone down 911. We are our warriors. I'm not saying we have to look for danger around the corner. I'm saying getting through life,
::Coach Pain
You have to have a warrior mentality. So when I look at Navy Seals,
::Coach Pain
first we got Marines, SAS guys, you know, Rangers, people that I know and I feel have gone into that and they have failed and never made it.
::Coach Pain
Whenever they went in a direction they wanted to go. And I'm so grateful because that's hard, man. That's tough. Those guys are no joke. They are legit great and are women, you know that. Go out there and serve and do what they got to do. You know, when you're sitting on the sideline and you're saying all of these amazing things or what you would or would not do is not for everybody, but let's salute those that are willing to put it on the line.
::Coach Pain
So if I can just be a part of that. Yeah, a piece of that. I'm grateful man. So I am a military mindset kind of guy, you understand? So I don't have to wear
::Coach Pain
your uniform. Exactly. I don't have to wear your uniform and show you that I'm a warrior. I can prove to you I'm a warrior. I don't care how many pushups you do.
::Coach Pain
You ask me how many pushups I can do. All of them. You ask me how many? How much I can bench press. I tell you all the time anything I don't want on my chest.
::Coach Pain
Yeah. Now you ask me who's a warrior. I don't need to be this physical specimen to prove to you what kind of man I am.
::Pat McCalla
that goes back to even your training style is functional.
::Coach Pain
I serve. Yeah. Practical function.
::Pat McCalla
a nonfunctional, program would be like, how many plates do I have on the
::Coach Pain
Who cares what I like? What you
::Pat McCalla
just said. It's like, what? Don't. I don't want this on my chest. I gotta
::Coach Pain
it. I'm gonna get it off. Exactly. It's a mindset. But think. Forget the guy that can bench press a Buick or 4 or 5, whatever. He can't run them out. Yeah, I'm not impressed. Okay, you can bench press, but you live your life every day. Bench pressing is cool. It looks great. You're strong.
::Coach Pain
But how is your mindset?
::Coach Pain
You understand what I'm saying? Mental strength
::Coach Pain
is required. Not necessarily physical. Physical is easy. You're supposed to bench press 4 or 5 because you. I win a guy that's 100 pounds. You know you're 100 pounds heavier than that guy. Why is 135 pencil guy trying to keep up with a 250 Kyle guy? Makes no sense. That's why I go back to competition.
::Coach Pain
Why am I competing with you? We are two different people. We're built different. We move different. I don't need to keep up with you. You don't need to keep up with me. You can bench 4 or 5. That's great. Now come on and run with me.
::Pat McCalla
too for our our first
::Coach Pain
Yeah. Well,
::Pat McCalla
You know, I like what you said too about the, the the foxhole. You know that the mindset is really who's with you.
::Coach Pain
Amen.
::Pat McCalla
and then using that analogy and bringing in a life like, you know, I wasn't in the military, I have two kids that were in the military.
::Pat McCalla
My dad was a marine,
::Coach Pain
You're part of.
::Pat McCalla
but I'm a part of it. But I'm still in a foxhole. I put that in quotes for people that are
::Coach Pain
right.
::Pat McCalla
I'm still in a foxhole with people around me, and that same mindset, it's like
::Pat McCalla
It's about the person who's
::Coach Pain
That's right.
::Pat McCalla
that's what the the mindset of a of a good first responder
::Coach Pain
That's right.
::Pat McCalla
person.
::Pat McCalla
But it should be the same for civilians.
::Coach Pain
Why do people say I'm off duty when you say you off the clock, I'm off my wife. She's good at nights I'm off. But we're never off. You're never off the clock. You're never off. Yes. Get your rest, eat a meal, has some time. Whatever. But if that alarm goes off, something sounds off. You like I'm off the clock.
::Coach Pain
If something tragically happens out that door, you're not just going to say, do you got nothing to do with me? If something is going on around you, it's got everything to do with you because danger is coming. Something that happened down the block. And you may say, I nothing to do with me, but what's going to stop it from coming to you?
::Coach Pain
We all we should keep our head on a swivel warrior mentality. Stay ready. Don't get ready. Wait. We supposed to always be ready for whatever may come?
::Coach Pain
You know,
::Coach Pain
I use a quote from Bruce Lee, and I say this because it's one of my favorite quotes he was saying. When an opponent contracts, I expand. When he expands, I contract for I do not hit.
::Coach Pain
It hits all by itself.
::Coach Pain
That is a powerful, powerful way of looking at things. To me, one thing comes one direction. How do you respond to it? Another thing goes another direction. How do you react to it? You have to always have that ready, ready, ready mentality. Stop living your life as if it's okay. Life is a life lesson.
::Coach Pain
You're learning every single day about you, about me, about us, about everything.
::Coach Pain
We are all warriors. We just have to learn how to use that warrior mentality. But I never met a true warrior that is lazy.
::Coach Pain
Have you?
::Pat McCalla
Nope.
::Pat McCalla
Not even
::Coach Pain
So you not what you say you.
::Coach Pain
Are, but let's
::Pat McCalla
jump in here because this just popped into my mind. And I don't want to do this because you being a trainer and knowing how the body works and
::Coach Pain
Yes. Or
::Pat McCalla
is important
::Coach Pain
Rest is important.
::Pat McCalla
different than being lazy,
::Coach Pain
right?
::Pat McCalla
I actually heard, actually was Special Forces.
::Coach Pain
Yeah.
::Pat McCalla
Special Forces. And he said, we learned really quickly when we're out in the field, like the real field, not training, but on a real exercise that, rest was one of our greatest weapons.
::Coach Pain
Yes.
::Pat McCalla
That's different than laziness.
::Coach Pain
Right. So let's let's talk about that. So
::Coach Pain
we're not robots.
::Coach Pain
We have this this analogy like. Yeah, keep going. Never quit. I get that we can be that person. You still human rest when you need to rest right with you when you need to refuel. Recover when you need to recover. But you still got to go to work, manage your time.
::Coach Pain
Manage what you do with your efforts. Balance the checkbook. You've heard the saying, balance meals.
::Coach Pain
Balance. We are unstable. Our society is unstable. We live in an industrial society. Go go go go go go go go go go go, gotta go, gotta get it. Gotta go, gotta work, gotta I gotta work 12 hours. Hey I do this I gotta, I gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta get the kids to school I gotta, gotta, gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta.
::Coach Pain
Then what? You're you're moving on. Fumes. Reserve, preserve reserve preserve
::Coach Pain
reserve. Because you got to. I didn't say go I and be crazy
::Coach Pain
I'm saying know when to fight and know when to be cool. I myself and the calm. And I am the storm. I'm both.
::Coach Pain
That's me. Never said you have to be like me I don't do the calm and the stone.
::Coach Pain
I'm both I know when to turn it up. I know when. Be cool.
::Pat McCalla
And I think a healthy life
::Coach Pain
That's anything.
::Coach Pain
You have to.
::Coach Pain
Have. You gotta have both. You gotta know when to be the calm and when to be the storm. Know what battles to fight and know the ones not to fight.
::Coach Pain
But you
::Pat McCalla
know to your point and kind of the way you live and your message I think about Sabbaths in the Bible, it talks about
::Coach Pain
Yes,
::Pat McCalla
God gave us right away. And he's saying once a week, just like. But
::Pat McCalla
the difference between laziness is he gave us six days to work and one day to rest.
::Coach Pain
is right. The Sabbath
::Pat McCalla
principle, not six days to rest and one day to work,
::Coach Pain
And here's a crazy, but here's the crazy part. When I say lazy, I think the misinterpretation. When I say lazy, it's it's this, this thing we think like is the thing about rest and is the thing about lazy
::Coach Pain
rest is necessary. Lazy is not necessary. You know, when you hear people will tell you that I'm just lazy.
::Coach Pain
You proud of that?
::Coach Pain
If I say if you say that to me, you look me in my eyes. Hey, coach, I'm just a lazy guy. I don't want you around me. What if something happened and you be too lazy to get up and move? Oh, there's something have, To. I don't. Your energy is you you you're perpetuating this then you bringing it to life.
::Coach Pain
And I don't like that. So rest is necessarily laziness isn't.
::Coach Pain
But let's be honest, most people in our society I lazy. Come on,
::Coach Pain
you look at something on social media, but if it's more than two minutes, they don't want to hear that. That if it's something that's got a long, long I don't want to read that.
::Coach Pain
It's got to be a click of a button.
::Coach Pain
Everything is click up. Alexa, turn on the lights. Grab my Alexa, do this, Alexa, do that. Why don't you get up? Just hit the like button. Nobody wants to do self-driving cars. Do do do do do do. Life is good. Oh, I saw a guy driving a Tesla. He said a walk to his guy at the car. Drive up.
::Coach Pain
Damn, he younger than me and me. Get up and go. Walk over there and get in that car. What's wrong with.
::Coach Pain
You? Yeah, I.
::Coach Pain
Understand about you having a cool looking vehicle.
::Coach Pain
come on, man, you still got milk on your breath. Get up. Walk your young self over there and get in that car. Why you pressing a button to bring it over? Because it looks cool. Yeah, I'm real with this stuff, man. So some people may think it's harsh, some people may think it's unnecessary.
::Coach Pain
But that's the problem with us as a society. We're not getting anywhere being soft man. We got to do better. So when you go back to the military, when you go back to these warriors that are out there fighting for our country and fighting around the world and doing what they gotta do to protect us, who's protecting them?
::Coach Pain
Who are you protecting? I gotta protect my wife. I gotta protect my family. I gotta protect my dog to protect my home. But I don't have the full capabilities of doing that because I'm too busy being lazy. Learn some stuff.
::Pat McCalla
Laziness is based on what you're saying. I'm surmising that you say laziness is a mindset,
::Coach Pain
It is.
::Coach Pain
Rest.
::Coach Pain
Rest is different of rest is necessary. You can't run your car without fueling it up. Yeah, after so long you can't have an electronic without it has batteries. Sooner or later the battery's going to run out. You gotta refuel. It's. That's a difference, though.
::Coach Pain
I have people that love to work out. If they can work out eight days a week and there's no eight days in a week, they will do it.
::Coach Pain
And not to say so. Now take a break. It's okay. Rest. You don't have to work. I work out six days a week. Why? Yeah.
::Coach Pain
all right, there's no such thing as overtraining. Yes and no. Your body, your joints, your ligaments. There are things that you need to take into consideration. Recovery is necessary.
::Coach Pain
When I say lazy, I mean, like, there are things that you can do better.
::Coach Pain
You just choose not to do. We have to stop giving laziness a pass. We have to stop giving weakness a pass. We have to stop making excuses. Our best friend. The time is now. Change your thought process and do better. We gotta start with this. Well, what will you know? Well, it's okay. It's not okay. It's not okay.
::Coach Pain
Because that moment you're lazy is when something can happen tragically and you can't get it back.
::Host
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::Pat McCalla
my friend, if I had to
::Pat McCalla
think about all this and you have packed a messages in in this. I mean, there's so many quotable quotes you've given,
::Coach Pain
Thank you.
::Pat McCalla
but it's this time. I mean, I would tell our listeners,
::Pat McCalla
if there's one thing you get out of this to just ask yourself when you're trying to make a decision, when your voice inside your head is saying something.
::Pat McCalla
Ask yourself, am I being lazy? Am I making an excuse? Because you, like you said, I've got breath in my
::Coach Pain
Yo, man, isn't that beautiful? Now just get up, man, to
::Coach Pain
get up, man. If get up, you can get up, get up, get up, get up now. It's like
::Coach Pain
ass,
::Coach Pain
know, so people can look at it from a different perspective. You know, that's just you. And everybody's not like you, but, you know, come a time you wish you was.
::Coach Pain
People better wake up people. It's what it is. So let's just let's just keep the ball rolling, man. I think I think I'm just thankful to the good Lord that I'm able to. You know, be a part of this opportunity to be with you guys and your team. And I hope that somebody out there that's listening can see this side of what I really believe in.
::Coach Pain
And like I say, everybody's got a story to tell.
::Pat McCalla
Yeah. Well, if they weren't motivated or challenged by your words, I'm going to question whether they have a
::Coach Pain
so.
::Pat McCalla
Well, hey, our listeners, I know some of them are like, how in the world do I get Ahold of Coach Pain?
::Coach Pain
Yeah, I want to hear more
::Pat McCalla
or I want to find more. So there's two ways. Coach Pain academy.com.
::Coach Pain
Yes sir.
::Pat McCalla
Coach Pain academy.com
::Coach Pain
Yes. Or
::Pat McCalla
ride with command.com
::Coach Pain
Yes. Our fitness facility. Yes. Yeah. The boot camp style coach Pain Academy has more of a practical style of fitness, strength, conditioning, all that good stuff, head style, all that good stuff on
::Pat McCalla
YouTube and they just put in Coach Pain,
::Coach Pain
That's more on my YouTube channel. Yeah, I'm on Spotify as well. They can find me on there as well. So yeah, there are there are ways of reaching out to get me,
::Pat McCalla
for our listeners,
::Coach Pain
you know, you can
::Pat McCalla
already tell listening if they've been listening to this podcast,
::Coach Pain
Yes. Through the. Yeah. I
::Pat McCalla
said at the beginning, if you want to be motivated, go
::Coach Pain
you're not going to do well.
::Coach Pain
I want to just say thank you for the opportunity. Shout out to all the men and women who serve of our near, first responders. You know, military personnel. I'm grateful to have opportunity, as I said before, to serve those that do, very, very, tight with the military community and first responder community around the world.
::Coach Pain
I just am inspired by that because somebody's got to do it, you know, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to serve those that do serve.
::Pat McCalla
So, Coach Pain, we always finish every podcast with this is kind of one of my favorite parts.
::Pat McCalla
It's ironic because we call this no gray areas. And I'm going to ask you to lie to me. So you're going to give me three statements. Two are going to be truths.
::Pat McCalla
One, don't give me a lie. And I got to try to figure out which one is the lies. It's a fun way for our audience to get to know you a little better.
::Coach Pain
So
::Pat McCalla
two truths and a lie. I'll try to pick the lie.
::Coach Pain
::Coach Pain
I love insects.
::Coach Pain
Okay.
::Coach Pain
I love seafood.
::Coach Pain
I love fast colors.
::Pat McCalla
man, you're. I going to make this easy on me, are you?
::Pat McCalla
You gotta love fast cars. I'm going to say that's
::Coach Pain
true. That's true. All right, so
::Pat McCalla
now I'm down to: ::Pat McCalla
You know what? You're from Chicago, so I'm going to say seafood is out. That's the law. You don't like.
::Pat McCalla
Seafood?
::Coach Pain
No, no, no, I right, right. Yeah. Right. I'm very, very particular about.
::Coach Pain
You liking and not.
::Coach Pain
no, I despise insects.
::Coach Pain
Oh, I was I can't take on a landlord. If I see a cricket, I melt like butter.
::Coach Pain
Yeah, I was, bugs and.
::Coach Pain
Rats last few years. I hate bugs, man. You know what? But, yeah.
::Coach Pain
No, man,
::Coach Pain
my soul will leave my body and talk to Jesus. I can't stand bugs, man. Yeah,
::Pat McCalla
well, there's another thing we have in
::Coach Pain
Yeah, buddy, I don't like. I feel happy with it. You big guy. What are you. I say, because there's no such thing as insect politics. Yeah, but you can't negotiate with them. That's all I know. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right.
::Pat McCalla
Thank you, Coach Pain.
::Coach Pain
my pleasure,
::Host
What an honor it was to share that conversation with Coach Pain. We hope this episode encouraged and lit a fire inside of you to get up and have a warrior mentality out there. Remember to subscribe to our channel and share this episode with someone who needs it. We'll see you next time! On no gray areas.
