Episode 10

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3rd Nov 2021

Why We Do What We Do | Ep. 10 with Steve Carter

One of the most important things you can do is guard your heart above all else.

Pat sits down with Steve Carter, who helps us get to “The Thing Beneath the Thing.”

With his helpful tips and tricks, we can start the process of becoming whole, holy, and healthy.

To learn more from Steve Carter and read his book, “The Thing Beneath the Thing,” head over to stevecarter.org

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About the Podcast

No Grey Areas
Hosted by Patrick McCalla
Life is a series of choices, and every choice you make ultimately makes you. The “No Grey Areas Podcast” is a motivational podcast platform with captivating guests centered around how our choices humanize, empower, and define who we become. The podcast was influenced by the story of Joseph Gagliano, the man who coordinated the largest college basketball sports scandal in 1994. No Grey Areas shares the underlying message that our choices, big or small, pave our future destiny.

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