Taking Control of Your Life and Tackling Disappointment | Ep. 71 with NFL Lineman Seth McKinney

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Speaker 1

Hey, today I know gray areas. We have former NFL player Seth McKinney and he tells a story and gives us principles about how to overcome disappointments and how to succeed in the processes of life. Listen now. Seth McKinney, thank you so much for joining us on the No Gray Areas podcast today. I'm really excited about our interview, so I want to just jump right into it.

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Speaker 1

I'm going to probably embarrass you a little bit because I want to read a list of your accomplishments and audience. Bear with me because it's a pretty long list. You played football at high school, at a high level, in high school and college, and you actually made it into the pros as well and played at a high level there.

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Speaker 1

So in high school, you want a state championship, is that correct? In Texas.

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Speaker 2

That is correct, which is a huge deal on taxes. It is not my my claim to fame on that one is that play with Drew Brees. Yeah.

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Speaker 1

So did he help with that championship I'm assuming.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. Yeah, he certainly did, obviously. I mean, it wasn't because of my blocking that we won on it, but we would've won the year before. But he got hurt in the game before our two games before State. We unfortunately lost the game right after. But yeah, yeah, we were, we were on a roll. Wow.

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Speaker 1

So I bet that was fun for you to watch him though. And how how well he did in his career, especially since you played with him in high school.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. I mean, you're in it so much and you see him play. And even in high school, I did my best. And I don't blame him at all for, you know, pass. And frankly, every school in Texas passed on Drew. But I did my best to to recruit him and to get the coaches to look at him and they did.

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Speaker 2

But it just it just didn't work out. And, you know, I always joke around that you could not have planned it better for Drew, frankly. He went to Joe Taylor at Purdue and it was like a Ph.D. in passing versus coming A&M, or we might have thrown it, you know, 13 times a game. And yeah, it was like a, you know, associate's degree in passing there.

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Speaker 2

So it worked out great for Drew. Okay.

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Speaker 1

merican member of the All-big: 1210

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Speaker 1

accomplishments. And then in: 2002

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Speaker 2

Well, no, I didn't start. Yes, I was basically the way they do their stats is it was on the active roster for all those years. I'm my first year I didn't start but I did do you know the worst position of all time which is which captain on kickoff return which sure you know I'm a I'm alone and I'm not one to be out there at all.

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Speaker 2

No one wants to be, which there's no one on earth I met that was like, that will be wedge Captain. But I'll tell you what, the guy you're blocking and start up will be in his position. Those attackers or whatever, I can't tell you the number of all five, four, three, two, one. Where's the kicker, guys? Yeah, it was the fives that were the craziest people on earth, and that was who we had to block.

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Speaker 2

And it could be a linebacker or it can be a fullback. And they just that's their job. Their sole job in life is to kill me and the guy that doesn't want to be there. And so, so and I.

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Speaker 1

They're running down the field full on and just.

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Speaker 2

Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 1

Just wanting to hurt you.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. You know, you go in there, you lay, you lay into and I remember one time in Kansas City, I think kid went to Kansas State. I can't remember his name, but just coming down here a linebacker and I was like, oh you hit it. It's like you startled and I didn't have a concussion or anything or might be in today, start seeing stars.

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Speaker 2

But I know that I came off the sideline and my helmet was was dented at the top. The facemask was like, wow, I just did a systems check. And I was like, I can I can feel everything. I'm alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1

Well and again people that listeners that maybe didn't play football and and especially at the level that you made they don't realize like you guys were injured we might call it like small car accidents numerous.

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Speaker 2

Oh that's a game.

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Speaker 1

This big as fast as you guys are at that level now that's.

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Speaker 2

Yeah I mean it's, it's quite a, it's quite a sport despite what they've done and they've made a lot of changes, advancements in helmet technology and much less rule changes. But as far as it comes to linemen and things of that nature, I mean it's you can't you can't change what you did down there. We we were just like, you have the collisions, you have big collisions every play, but you don't have those wicked hits.

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Speaker 2

The receivers or quarterbacks have from time to time.

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Speaker 1

Well, how many years did you play for Miami then? You were drafted.

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Speaker 2

85 years ago next year. The second year I competed in starting three through five. I was in the starting position even though the injuries, I had it up at that point in time. And then my sixth and seventh years I was in Cleveland and then my eighth year I was in Buffalo. Okay.

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Speaker 1

Well, I want to get around to this because this podcast is about the power of choices and the consequences of choices, good and bad. And I think that your life, not just in sports, but just because you're a human being, you've dealt with disappointment. I mean, when I was reading those stats about you and thinking like, here you go all the way through college and you hit 50 consecutive games and then you're at least able to play in 16 games in your your first two or three years of the NFL.

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Speaker 1

But then you then the injuries start hitting. And I'm assuming at that point in your life, like football's life for you almost, Right? I mean, you had to make it to that level. You spent quite a bit of time on that field.

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Speaker 2

It was my definitely my livelihood and my family was depending on me. And not only that, I mean, I'm you know, you're out there, you're a competitive person and you want to be on the field and competing with your your teammates and competing for yourself to prove yourself that you deserve to be where you're at. And, you know, that's what I always say, is that, you know, professional sports, football, whatever is, it's the ultimate meritocracy.

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Speaker 2

I mean, it's no one is out there choosing favorites and you're the best you're going to be playing. And if you're not, you're not going to play. And that's just how it goes. And at every turn, the you know, as a player, you're out there trying to prove every play. And if you're not, you're you're taking steps back and you're going to get worse and you're never going to make it long term.

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Speaker 2

But you have to know that. And, you know, that's something that that just starting day one that you have to take into consideration even and even in college or whatever the college is pride and getting out there and that desire to make it to the next level. And that's how you prove it, right? These these kids nowadays, it's it's an interesting situation but it's yeah I know and all that.

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Speaker 2

I don't want to get into that. But but the motivations have changed, I guess a little bit. But it's still the same, you know, the players get there now and and you know, they they take it from there. But yeah, I mean, it's it's it's, it's your life. You're spending waking hours doing it and you get all high, you know, at five or whatever six and and that's that you deal with your whole life as a football instead of.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. You know doing books as an accountant.

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Speaker 1

You know stuff. So you bring up a really good point that I don't think a lot of people think about unlike most jobs that people have. Because, you know, when you were playing, that's your job. Like you said, it's your livelihood, but you are 100% dealing with the best get on the field. And it's like you didn't have a good day at work in the office.

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Speaker 1

You go back in, you still got your job. The next day. You're really dealing with in the in the in the high level of sports world that you could lose that job the next day. Yeah. So the pressure's got to be amazing.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, it is. It's, it's stressful. And anyone who tells you that it's not is like even the best or or stressed about their performance either for, for pride sake, you know the best. Don't necessarily worry about making the team, but they're worried about being the best. Right. And so it's a different level of stress, but there's always stress on it.

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Speaker 2

And, you know, you're constantly if everything you do is on film, every little step, every, you know, interaction, I mean, it's it's on film and and it's it's the wildest thing. But you could compare going back to an accountant who's, you know, having what you do film and everything like oh, that was an error in that Excel. So you have there are oh you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2

It's like, it's like everything is judged and things and, and it's, it's, it's the, it's the ultimate competition. And I love that. I love my time doing it. But yet it was in the stressful but I had a strain going back to that strength coach tell me one time Brad role he was like you know, he's like, you guys, you football players are the most insecure people of all time.

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Speaker 2

And I was like, Yeah, it is. It is a bad feeling that that knowing that that every day your performance is how you're judged and whether you stay out there or not. And it's not like being a, you know, an accountant, a doctor or, you know, any kind of profession, you get paid like a doctor. Once you're done, you don't do make doctor money.

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Speaker 2

You got to start over. And so your whole goal is to stay there as long as you can to do the things that you have to do to not only win and be the passenger position for the team and your pride and things of that nature. Yeah, but you know, so you can make money and support your family.

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Speaker 1

Well, so you had a pretty Lester's career. So what were your what was one of your highest points and lowest points? I'm asking this because I'm I'm interested. I'm asking high point in from high school, college and professional and low point in those. So your high point might have been high school. I don't know. We tell me.

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Speaker 2

championship in: 1998

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Speaker 2

And you know, we ended up winning on a last second play in double overtime. And it was crazy occasion, but that was definitely the most well, yeah, thing that I've ever been through. It was all it was just it was unreal. It was a blast. And I know and another high point for me and this is I guess you're getting to get into my low point, if you will.

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Speaker 2

But another high point was just kind of I missed my fifth year with a with a neck injury that I had a C 67 fusion got that taken care of earned the ability to to start again in Cleveland and then I get to the low point is like in the ninth game versus Seattle I dislocated my left shoulder and it was it was such a demoralizing thing.

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Speaker 2

I mean, it really it really hurt me, man. I mean, it like emotionally took me down. And that's tough because, I mean, I dealt with a lot. I'd had three injuries before that missed the whole entire season. My third year come back, earning the ability to start again. We were having a great year. It was the best year, Cleveland in years.

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Speaker 2

We actually went ten six that year, had a ton of Pro bowlers, but and then getting hurt you know I can remember just like I didn't want to think about anything, man. I just like it was rough. It was really, really rough. And of course I came back and I earned the right to play for another two years.

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Speaker 2

But but after all that, and proving myself and earning the right to start again to get hurt just in in the ninth year is like, here we go again. And, you know, but that's getting back to it. It's like fighting through and, you know, yes, the low points that you come back from, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2

I mean, you get you have you can either wallow in your pain and misery and depression, if you will, or you can say, no, forget it, man. I'm going to prove myself that I can still play in this league. And then I have the ability to play and and I'm going to do it. And you take it day by day by day.

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Speaker 2

And, you know, I can remember in the rehab up, you're barely moving your arm, you know, kind of doing a little bitty rotations. And then you take it from there and, you know, you're seven. I go out for two days and training camp and prove myself again. So that's all you can do is take it day by day and you keep earning the right to be out there.

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Speaker 1

You know, Seth, when you're when you're telling that story, it made me think again. For all of us as humans, we deal with disappointment. But one of the things that you were going through in the discouragement, maybe the depression that you were going through at that time, is you worked it sounds to me like you worked really hard to come back from injury and then boom, you get hit again.

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Speaker 1

But you don't know the future in that moment, right? Like right now you're sitting there and you look back.

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Speaker 2

And.

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Speaker 1

You came back from that injury again. But that's what makes disappointment so difficult in our life sometimes is we actually don't know the future. Like at that moment when you're hurt again, you're like, This could be it. This could be the end.

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Speaker 2

And you're always right. I mean, every and every occasion and every injury, you could always you can you can think the worst and things of that nature. And frankly, I probably did think the worst, that I'll never do it again. But. But you can't keep that thought. All right. You can have that thought. That's fine. I mean, those those kind of thoughts happen naturally.

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Speaker 2

You're a human being. But the thing that you've got to do is to fight that all the way, put it away, and just go through the process, you know? I mean, like I played him and Nick Saban for two years in Miami is two years in the NFL and one thing that he did always preach was the process.

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Speaker 2

And and that's all that you can think about. Like you you control the process. That's the only thing in life that you can control is doing the right things that you need to do, whether that's be the best football player or be the best father, be the best, you know, business owner, things of that nature. And there are certain processes that are involved in all those.

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Speaker 2

And when it comes to football and rehab, as you go through the process, you start with the barely moving your arm and then you start with, you know, shoulder perturbations or whatnot, and then you take it into doing, you know, bench again and then you take it and actually going on the field and hitting somebody. And that's all you can do, that's all you can control is yourself.

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Speaker 2

And I know that it's kind of it's a lot easier said than done, but it's that you know Yeah. Stoic mentality that hey you only you literally only control what you control. And I try to tell my kids that but it's a hard principle to, you know, get through to somebody is that that's the only thing that you can do in life is control yourself.

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Speaker 2

Because you know. Yeah. You know, if you're married, you know that you have no control over your life as much as you're going to do. And and you can only see through and and so that's what it comes down to, is you do what you're supposed to do to be the father player or whatever it is that you do in life.

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Speaker 2

But at the that's how you live is you just keep doing the process day by day. You wake up, you do the same. You know, you don't do this anymore. You try to find you messed up, you fix it and move on and but that's all you do is is keep following the process. And when you mess up, pick up the pieces and move forward.

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Speaker 1

That is so good because you said it sounds simple, you know, but. And it does. I think sometimes the deepest truths are. Sure.

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Speaker 2

It sounds simple, right?

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Speaker 1

Yeah, but it's not. But I love that because one of my biggest pet peeves is that in our culture, it seems like we're we're incessant in trying to somehow identify or pretend that there's these overnight successes. You know, like someone all sudden makes it big. And we're like, oh, look it. It was overnight. It's never overnight, is it?

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Speaker 1

If you look back at anything, anybody, any organization, any team that's been successful, if you're going to look back, you're going to see a process, right? You're going to see these little steps that were taken again and again and again.

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Speaker 2

So I go back to the same and again. And I know that I keep saying this because first off, he's an Alabama. I'm an eight. And, you know, I despise him this span. I play for him. TODD Yeah, yeah. Look, here's the deal. I respect him as a coach, you know, And I don't think that he was out there to be our friends, period.

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Speaker 2

You know, full stop. He was not out there to be your friend. He was out there to win at that time. Super Bowls. And I think you can say the same thing about him in Alabama. But I will say this when I say that I respect him as a coach is that he was relentless and there's a reason that he is literally the best.

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Speaker 2

That's ever breathed when it comes to college football. Is that the he does he like when you say that there's a process he follows. And when it comes to recruiting, when it comes to coaching, when it comes to holding his players accountable, when it comes to holding his own coaches accountable, I mean, he will he will not hesitate to out when one of his coaches you know, I remember Howard, he was like one of the greatest offensive line coaches of all time, telling us in a meeting one time he's like, look, we all mess up.

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Speaker 2

Just know that I'm gonna come down here and I'm going to radio because guess who's getting it upstairs to me? I'm getting yeah, I'm getting shoot out much. You y'all out. Trust me. So, I mean, like, you're talking about a guy that's coached the best of the best and has been around in the league, you know, you know, five times, ten times longer than Nick Saban.

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Speaker 2

Never thought about being in the league. And and he was there and getting chewed out and having to hold us accountable. So, I mean, it's a process is a daily grind. But when it comes to being the best team and does it and he has that ability and that's why that I don't I mean like I don't look at myself and as a as a negative but I will never have that because there are certain aspects of your life that you have to give up to be that.

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Speaker 2

And he has I mean, he's fully devoted to being the best football coach that has ever lived, and he'll probably achieve that, but at the detriment of what I don't know. And I'm not going to say or speculate on anything else, but I do know what it takes to be the best. And I look at myself, I'm like, Man, yeah, I don't have to be the best.

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Speaker 2

I don't know if I want to do that, but there's a reason he's worried.

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Speaker 1

Yeah, well, I love to say that sacrifice is giving up something you love for, something you love more. And again, to see anybody who's accomplished something they've sacrificed. And what I hear you saying is he sacrificed a lot, a lot of things that he probably loved to get to, something that he loved more.

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Speaker 2

And no doubt.

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Speaker 1

You know, I think I just want to stay on this point for one more moment, because I think it's so important for our audience to get again, where you're talking about processes because it is the secret ingredient in life. It's you show me any great father and they didn't stumble on that accidentally. Show me a great accountant. They didn't stumble on that accidentally.

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Speaker 1

Show me a great doctor. They didn't stumble on that accidentally. Right. And that's that's what you're saying you learned from Saban is it's going back to the process and even dealing with your disappointment with injuries. It's getting up the next day and moving your arm just this little bit and doing the just a lot. Right. It's that process.

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Speaker 1

And you found that in your professional life. Now, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. And it doesn't matter what you do there is there is a process and you can define it. I know it's a process a lot better. I try. Yeah. Anyway, it's what it's all about. There is a process of life. There's a process of being, you know, a great father, and you do the best that you can to to follow it every day when you wake up, when it comes to being a husband, things of that nature or whatever it is that you're doing in life, you can say that about real estate or anything else.

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Speaker 2

There's there's a process of what you do and those that stick to it. And first off, you have to find the right process. You can't find it. You find the wrong process, you're going to get the wrong process results. And when you find the right process and you follow it over and over and you're constantly changing, even changing the process and making it better and things of that nature and adapting to the new current reality of what things are, that as long as you're on the path and following the right steps that you're, you're destined to be a success.

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Speaker 2

But I think Annie Duke and some of her books, you know, she's like great poker player, talks about resulting and and I think about things that when people talk about a failure or, you know, a one time success and they don't talk about the steps that were taken to get to that and their results. Absolutely. And, you know, like, look, I know when I am in golf, I am a horrible golfer.

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Speaker 2

I love it. It's a lot of fun. I go out, I play, and it's kind of just thoughtless. And I actually enjoy playing golf by myself quite a bit. On the course where I play, I can get out there and go and just it's kind of mindless when you're saying balls, but but you know, when you're playing with someone, I'm like, Hey, man, I was he made great contact and that's like all you can ask for.

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Speaker 2

You just something else messed up. I was like, You know, your result and you know me probably no one. But anyways, no one takes the time and golf to be the best, especially amateurs, you know, Just takes too much. Yeah, but. And, but if you're even, like on a real estate, if you, if you have to do that you bought and you made a lot of money in it or whatever and you don't know what you did to do that or don't try to replicate that, you're just resulting.

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Speaker 2

But if you can go in and consistently say, This is what I did to get this, and we did this and we did this and we did this and ultimately made money, I mean, that's where that's where it comes down to.

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Speaker 1

pretty much my entire life at: 2021

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Speaker 1

25, 26, 27 But you start doing that, that's, that's where really when I got into my forties is where I started to realize that this, this little habit of reading 30 minutes a day had started to build and was now having huge implications on my life. But it didn't happen overnight. It didn't even happen in a few years.

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Speaker 1

It was after years and years and years of doing that. I think that's the process. PIECE Well, let me ask you this, because we talked a lot about process. You mentioned Saban at Alabama or from Miami at that time is the one that who taught you about what is something else that a coach told you? Or one of the most important things that the coach ever told you that helped you in life?

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Speaker 2

You know, I think going back to to our slogan within our metrics there do I love and love playing for was always talking about, you know, academics and things of that nature. And he would always make that a big deal. And, you know, some people didn't take it seriously, some did. I ended up taking it seriously and I tried my best to make good grades.

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Speaker 2

I went to class and, you know, I know there are plenty of people who never win, but I just did it. I just showed. I was basically like, the process. You know, I didn't have to go crazy. I didn't make all A's or not. I mean, a lot of is because I did show up and I did study and but I had a buddy that would just drive me nuts because he's like, you know, I had a photographic memory or whatnot, and that was it.

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Speaker 2

Anyway, that's a different story. But but I did have the process of at least going to class and study. And I mean, I wasn't the best student owner, but I did it. I showed up and, you know, Coach Logan would always be just like, you know, have the he brought one time he brought in great deal of player It is.

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Speaker 2

And I remember after practice he was like you know the smartest people had two plans and I was like, I take that to heart, you know. And I ended up getting my master's degree while I was attending undergrad and masters. So I did take my education very seriously and I attribute a lot of that to Coach Logan kind of meeting that interest.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, that was a that was a big part of his program. Yeah.

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Speaker 1

That's so he said the smartest people have two plans.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. You know, I see both sides that I recently came across. There's a person I know I respect on Twitter and I follow our newsletter, dude, Dr. Julie Garner. Anyway, she's sometimes she's on the opposite side of that of like, burn bridges. And I get it. But I think that especially while you're are you're young you can go down to Paris like I was like I'm not you know, there's too many unknowns when it comes to the football too.

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Speaker 2

Like, I think that would just be completely ignorant to only focus on football at the expense of getting an education while you can. I could have done that, but who knows if I. I didn't play 50 straight games in college and had a shoulder or whatnot in college and college and didn't get drafted or something of that nature, you know.

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Speaker 2

So you have to you have to make great decisions for where you're at in life. And that just wasn't for me to only big football. I mean, a lot of people do that and then sometimes it pays off. And more often than not, it does not pay all. Yeah.

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Speaker 1

Well, I think, Seth, you bring up a point there where there's so many dichotomies in life, isn't there? If I could write a book, I think I would talk about the dichotomies in life, because both those two principles are very true, that if you're smart, you're going to have two plans. And then the dichotomy is burn the bridges, burn the ship.

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Speaker 2

You know.

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Speaker 1

Go all in. Both are good.

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Speaker 2

Principle. What that comes down to is like having doubt or self doubt, no more than 82 parts, you know.

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Speaker 1

Yeah. That's what you're saying is, is you're thankful that a coach brought in someone who taught you that and that you were going down to two plans that you definitely had the football when that worked out for me for a while. But because you had a second plan, it's worked out well for you post-football years.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. And that was if you're not thinking about your life after football, when you're playing, then then you're in for a world of hurt. My opinion, it doesn't last forever. Like I said, you're getting a doctor, lawyer, whatever money for a years. So sometimes I think the average career is like three years. So you've got to understand that there comes an end to the music.

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Speaker 2

It does shut off at some point time and you have to gather yourself, regroup, and figure out a way to support your family. That's what it comes down to. And if you don't have that plan, you better be very, very good at football. Yeah, some people can do that. Some people have the ability to. When I was never that, I never wanted to have a goal in football, I think, I mean, like there are guys that can do that right that that have the ability to like in football I admit that fully.

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Speaker 2

But like I said, the vast majority of players out there are going to be dependent on something other than what they made while playing when they get done.

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Speaker 1

Absolutely. I mean, you're talking to a tiny, tiny minority of players.

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Speaker 2

Especially when it comes to talk about especially if you talk about take it down to the college level, that person is minuscule, mean probably .01 percent can rely on what they made in the NFL for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 1

Yeah. And then even once they get done, even if they play a long career, then what are they going to do after that? Well, there's a very, very few of them that still get to go into sports broadcasting or something where they're still in the football world, right? Yeah, that's that's that's.

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Speaker 2

Right.

:: 28:47:12

Speaker 1

Very few. Well, sir, thank you so much, man. I, I think we definitely learn some life principles, power of choices, how to overcome disappointment. I think you gave us some principles that are valuable that you learned from some of your coaches. But I want to finish with something that we do this really fun in no gray areas. It's ironic because I'm going to ask you to lie to us.

:: 29:05:03

Speaker 1

So audiences heard you for about 30 minutes here and see if you can stump me and the audience. Two Truths and a lie.

:: 29:13:03

Speaker 2

All right. To truth in a lie. I work out every day at 6 a.m., I was hit by a car as a child. I cold plunge every morning. Oh, yeah.

:: 29:26:11

Speaker 1

See, I was immediately going to go yes with the 6 a.m. workouts because if you are an athlete, you have to be disciplined. But I actually know plenty of athletes that that when they when they dropped the pads or the cleats, they never stepped in the gym again. But I went to a baseball game with you recently and I saw you look like you still workout every day at 6 a.m. That's the truth.

:: 29:46:14

Speaker 2

Okay. That is true.

:: 29:48:04

Speaker 1

Okay. Okay. And then the cold plunge and hit by a car. I'm going to say you cold plunge. But not every day. You cold. So I got hit by a car.

:: 29:59:10

Speaker 2

So I did I than that cold clutch thing. I just I don't understand these folks. And because I did football and I hated every second of pure misery. Now, I guess there's nothing about it that I want to do with, like, you know what? I'll find a way to make my life and emotions and, you know, whatever. Good.

:: 30:19:09

Speaker 2

Without cold blood.

:: 30:20:22

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get that there. I don't understand that either. Like, I like saunas and steam rooms. Like the heat.

:: 30:27:15

Speaker 2

Therapy. Yeah.

:: 30:28:14

Speaker 1

Sounds good to me. Not the cold.

:: 30:30:05

Speaker 2

And I believe in it. That's fine. I can do that kind of thing. The cold?

:: 30:33:20

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think so. You were hit by a car when you were a kid?

:: 30:36:16

Speaker 2

Yeah. Yeah, I was there. I laugh about it now, but obviously. Yeah, it was. It was actually pretty wild when it was the day after my sixth birthday and I was racing my brother home. We live in a small town, Centerville, and I was racing my brother home and and I took one way and I'm like riding my fast as I could.

:: 30:56:15

Speaker 2

And of course I look to the right, which, you know, I was looking for my brother Steve. I was dating him. And then the car came from the left and hit me and I like did a cartwheel. Wow. And I wait like I can. I'm six, right? So, I mean, I can laugh about it now, but with, like, my dad was the town doctor and he got a call up at his office and someone's like, Doc, you know, come down to Western.

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Speaker 2

A lot of the kids been hit by a car. We think he did. So he rushes up there, sees my older brother, like walking off, sad with his bike and is like, Oh my goodness. He goes up there and sees me and turns into Dad instead of like racing the neck. He kind of like, excuse me up. And, you know, it was it was it was a wild, wild man.

:: 31:41:15

Speaker 2

And I ended up, like, cracking my skull like an egg, which ultimately, looking back on it, saved my life because my brain was able to swell and then come back and broke my leg. And I was like in a in the ICU for a while and in a coma for like two days. But I don't know, man. I know that it was tough.

:: 32:00:17

Speaker 2

I didn't like, cross the street for a while. I didn't want to run in elementary school. Yeah, but I like I said, I can laugh about it now, but it I couldn't imagine being my parents. Right? I was a kid. Whatever. You're relentless as a kid. But my parents mean, I must have just been unbelievably shocking.

:: 32:19:10

Speaker 1

Not what any dad wants to do is go to get.

:: 32:22:11

Speaker 2

There is a doctor.

:: 32:23:23

Speaker 1

Yes, a doctor. Wow. Well, sir, thank you so much for joining us today. Really, really appreciate it, my friend. Man, what a great interview with Seth McKinney, talking about his disappointments in life, but also the importance of processes. And so I want to leave you with this question. What processes are you dealing with in your life? What steps, small steps are you going to take starting tomorrow to be more successful in the areas that you want to be successful in life?

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Speaker 1

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