Episode 109

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19th Feb 2025

The “Bathroom Floor” Moment: How To Rise Up When You Hit Rock Bottom | Ep. #109 with Latasha Trevino

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What happens when you hit rock bottom? For Latasha Trevino, it became the turning point that transformed her life. From enduring betrayal, abuse, and homelessness to discovering her faith and purpose, Latasha shares her raw and inspiring journey of resilience. Her “bathroom floor moment” was more than just a low point—it was the beginning of a life rebuilt on faith, hope, and courage.

In this episode, Latasha gets vulnerable about her struggles with self-harm, identity as a biracial woman, and the crushing weight of past pain. But she also reveals how those moments became stepping stones for healing, personal growth, and helping others. “In the crushing is where the oil becomes everything,” she says, showing how life’s hardest moments can lead to our greatest triumphs.

Don’t miss Latasha’s powerful insights on building boundaries, staying consistent, and discovering the freedom of choice. Whether you’re navigating your own rock-bottom moment or looking for hope in difficult times, this episode is packed with the motivation and wisdom you need to take the next step forward.

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Host

What happens when you hit rock bottom? Today we sit down with special guests and motivational speaker Latasha Trevino on how the lowest point in our lives can be just the beginning of something miraculous. Let's jump in.

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Pat McCalla

Latasha, thank you so much for joining us. And No Gray

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Latasha Trevino

Areas podcast

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Pat McCalla

today. We are really excited to have you. I want to just jump right into your story. You talked a little bit about a bathroom floor moment,

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Latasha Trevino

Oh, yeah.

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Pat McCalla

we turn the mics and cameras on. So let's just jump

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Latasha Trevino

in there

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Pat McCalla

and run with that.

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Pat McCalla

Talk about the bathroom moment.

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Latasha Trevino

the bathroom floor moment. I think all of us have, some people have them and they hold on to it and they never share. God's given me the commission to share about the bathroom. Hopeless moment, I call it. When you feel like the walls are closing in. Or maybe you feel like you're underwater and you keep gasping for air, but then you get back under.

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Latasha Trevino

It's a moment of feeling like everything that I have worked for, everything that I am, everything that I thought, was the purpose of my life. God, where are you? I need you, I can't do this anymore. And that bathroom floor moment when I put my kids to bed, they were four, and, still new little one, you know, and I had put them to bed.

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Latasha Trevino

I was working on, my master's of divinity program, and I had finished a 35 page paper. And I just felt in that moment of being abandoned by my then ex-husband. God, no one's helping me, and I'm drowning, and I just can't do this anymore. And I just thought my four year old shouldn't have to help me co-parent and watch.

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Latasha Trevino

I think it was tangled at the time on repeat all day while I pulled the kitchen table up to work on this paper, and I just was like, oh, I'm such a terrible mom. Which moms everywhere. If you're a good mom, you beat yourself up at the end of the day anyway. And I just said, Lord, I just, I just want to take my life.

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Latasha Trevino

I just can't do this anymore. I've tried and I can't. And I heard the Holy Spirit, very audibly, which I say is also it was Jesus that was laying on the floor with me, no church members. Nobody was calling me. And he said, get up off the floor. It was very firm. It was like, I don't you know who you are.

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Latasha Trevino

And I'm like, no.

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Latasha Trevino

I don't know who I am, Lord. That's what I'm saying. I need help.

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Latasha Trevino

And he was like, get up off the floor. Yeah, get up off the floor. Yeah. And he said, look in the mirror. And

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Latasha Trevino

I looked in the mirror and you know how you feel. Pretty pitiful for yourself sometimes. And you're crying and you're.

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Latasha Trevino

Doing the ugly cry.

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Latasha Trevino

He said, look at yourself. And I think when you look at yourself in those moments, if you just wait one second, you have a thought. It's fleeting. You don't want to die. You don't want to take your life. You just want the pain to stop. Jesus was the healer for the wound in my heart. In that moment and when I looked in the mirror, I didn't see, the victim.

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Latasha Trevino

I didn't see the girl who was struggling. I saw a woman of God that God was calling to this great command. And he said, you adjust your crown and I fix my crown. And I was fixing my tears and I said, wow, Jesus, you you're real. And I said, the devil should have killed me when he had the chance, because now I'm bringing the whole hood with me because, you know,

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Latasha Trevino

I'm black and Mexican.

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Latasha Trevino

So I got a little flavor. And at that moment, it was clear. My mission was clear.

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Latasha Trevino

Someone else has to have a rescue from their bathroom for a moment. And if it's going to be anyone, it'll be me.

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Pat McCalla

my goodness, there's so many directions we can go from just what you shared. I mean, I love the adjust Your crown speak into that a little bit. Like what do you mean? Like, let's say some of our listeners, first of all, all of our listeners have probably been in a situation similar to yours, different circumstances, but a place like you where they're feeling hopeless,

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

they can't see a way forward.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah,

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Pat McCalla

But what did you mean when you said that that that Jesus said to adjust your crown? Explain that a little bit to our listeners, because I love that.

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Latasha Trevino

Well, just as a little foreshadowing, like my ex-husband was in the NFL and he was a Super Bowl champion at this moment of my life. And we are great friends. I will say that now we co-parent. The Lord has brought us a mighty long way. But in that moment, two kids in their mid-twenties trying to raise a family, you know, I started to almost disappear in the NFL world, and I didn't have my identity intact.

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Latasha Trevino

We got thrown into it. You know, I was a mover and shaker in college. I was on the Dean's list, and I. I soon started to shrink, and I didn't know who I was anymore. I didn't go to the stuff in the NFL. I didn't go to really many of the game because I was taking care of our little one.

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Latasha Trevino

And and I just started to feel like, God, who am I? I know I matter, I'm reading the Bible. I'll be at watching The Nanny reruns on Nickelodeon Nick at night, but that's when he was like,

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Latasha Trevino

you're more than just Lily's mom. You're more than just a wife. You've been petitioned and called, set apart for a time such as this.

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Latasha Trevino

And that's why I had to allow for you to go through this. Because your crown has always been your crown. Your identity is in me. I'm the king. You're rolling with me. You are an heir to the throne room of the kingdom of God. Dust yourself off. Adjust your crown and know who you are and who's you are.

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Latasha Trevino

And if you continue with me, you'll never feel like you don't know who you are. Because in me you've been found.

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Pat McCalla

Latasha, I feel like I gotta keep jumping. Interesting. Amen, Amen

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Latasha Trevino

No. Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

But

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Pat McCalla

man, you bring up the identity issues. And I thought you were going to go there. That's why I wanted to ask about The Crown, because I remember I was, I was, preaching a sermon years ago when I was, when I was preaching and was about identity.

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Pat McCalla

And I remember afterwards, counselor came up to me and said, you know, almost every thing that I am dealing with in people's lives where I have someone laid out on a couch talking to them, it almost always comes back to identity

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Pat McCalla

so what you're saying is really the core of what you were dealing with in that moment of all the hopelessness.

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Pat McCalla

A lot of was wrapped up in identity issues. Right?

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Latasha Trevino

Oh sure.

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Latasha Trevino

And what God was

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Pat McCalla

doing with you was just reminding you of who you were

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

or are. But I love what you said. You have a crown.

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Pat McCalla

Your identity has a crown on you, right?

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Latasha Trevino

So

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Pat McCalla

can you just tell our listeners, because we have some listeners, most of our listeners are from a faith based perspective, not all of them.

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Pat McCalla

So some of them may not understand. And some of

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Latasha Trevino

them

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Pat McCalla

do probably just need to be reminded.

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Pat McCalla

Why do you say that you had a crown?

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Latasha Trevino

I say that I had a crown because, well, yeah, it's just,

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Latasha Trevino

because he told me, you know, I think you're aware that you're an heir to the kingdom of God. You're aware that this life is not my own. I'm an ambassador, so I'm like a dual citizen. I live in this world, but I'm not of it.

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Latasha Trevino

But the crown, just to me, it represents the. The thorns, the crown of thorns, the mockery, the trials of various sorts that we're going to have if I'm apart from Christ and I might have an earthly crown and I might wear a mask and it slips, and the crown is, you know, on and off. This is identity. It's with me always.

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Latasha Trevino

When he wore that crown of thorns and they mocked him and they beat him and all that, that's a representation of this gifts, this gift of grace that I'm not even deserving of. So he did all that which he did. And he said, now you wear a crown. That is for eternity. How could I posture myself to ever let the devil put me in a position of subservience to him ever again?

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Pat McCalla

Wow. I love how you combine that. Two because the crown part is you you are an heir to so your daughter, the king.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah,

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Pat McCalla

a king, but

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Latasha Trevino

The king.

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Pat McCalla

and Lord of all lords. Right?

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Pat McCalla

So that's the crown you wear a crown that will will be an eternal crown.

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Latasha Trevino

Yes.

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Pat McCalla

I like how you tied it in two to the crown of thorns.

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Pat McCalla

Because Jesus didn't promise us a life without pain and suffering, just like he had. Right? So that's that was just masterful how you connected those two, that you wear a crown because you're a daughter of the king, but that crown has thorns in it sometimes

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah,

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Pat McCalla

Right? And it's one of the things that you, you had to wade through.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. So

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Pat McCalla

let me let me go back then a little bit. So

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Pat McCalla

you're having this, this bathroom floor moment.

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Latasha Trevino

It was a

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Pat McCalla

turning moment for you. Turning point for you. But but speaking to a little bit more how you had lost your identity some and just the, the struggle that you had as an, an NFL wife. I'm sure in some ways it was what most people would dream of,

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Pat McCalla

right?

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah, a lot.

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Latasha Trevino

Of

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Pat McCalla

women would be like, oh my goodness, if I could live that

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Latasha Trevino

Life. Yeah.

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Latasha Trevino

But

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Pat McCalla

it wasn't all beautiful and fun and games in some ways, right?

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Latasha Trevino

No, no. And I think for me personally I can't speak. And this is hopefully not a blanket, experience in the NFL. There's plenty of Christians and believers. Again, because we were thrown into it so young. I'm understanding of the hardships and why we probably went through what we went through. But, at the end of the day, I think when you are experiencing being renewed in your mind in Christ, there's a lot of paradigms here that we struggle with being a biracial woman from childhood.

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Latasha Trevino

My mother's Mexican-American, my dad's African-American. We didn't go to a church. I found the Lord in college, and got saved in college. All I had was a seed as a little a little kid. Jesus loves you. My mom gave me that seed, and I would have dreams and I would have visions. And I was 16, and I would have spiritual attack dreams.

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Latasha Trevino

And I'm like, what is this?

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Latasha Trevino

And so your identity, I think of, oh, you're not black enough. You're not Mexican enough. Why do you think that you can be both choose one. College was crazy. It was like you'd have lectures and people you know are expressing themselves, and it'd be like, you have to pick one. And my identity to me was never woman or African-American or Latina.

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Latasha Trevino

While I'm proud of those hats, the daughter keeps coming back to, this is your identity. This is who you are. All of the other stuff that we dress ourselves up with in the world, those are just different layers of the external, but inwardly there is no Jew or Greek, man or woman, slave or free. We're all equal in Christ.

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Latasha Trevino

And so that's really for me, not just the NFL experience, but being bullied as a kid. You know, things where it's like, okay, I'm going to take off these layers. I'm taking off these garments that no longer serve me, and I'm putting on the role of righteousness, and that's who I am, and that's how I'm going to be.

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Latasha Trevino

And that's it. And that's kind of what identity has become for me over the years.

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Pat McCalla

Yeah. You know, you bring up such a powerful point, which is why I've always hated the word racism. And our audience has heard me say it before. It doesn't actually even make sense

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Latasha Trevino

because yeah.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah, sure,

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Pat McCalla

We're all creating the image of God. And so we have different ethnicities and but anybody from different ethnicities, we struggle sometimes with identity.

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Pat McCalla

And like you're

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Latasha Trevino

sure,

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Pat McCalla

biracial. So you've got this identity and this identity and

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Pat McCalla

Sounds like it was confusion for you. But what really helped was when you began to understand your true identity,

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Pat McCalla

it wasn't wrapped up in any of those

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

wrapped up in the fact that you were created in the image of God, your daughter, the king.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. Absolutely

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Pat McCalla

amazing.

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Latasha Trevino

Yep.

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Pat McCalla

Betrayal was part of that struggle, though, right?

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Latasha Trevino

Oh sure.

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Pat McCalla

you mind sharing

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

bit? Because again, we have some of our audience. I know for sure there's one person who's listening that is a good friend of my wife and I who's going through that right now, a

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

betrayal.

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Latasha Trevino

Oh, yeah.

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Pat McCalla

so, talk

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Pat McCalla

about that a little bit like to struggle with that.

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Latasha Trevino

, the oil, you know, back in,:

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Latasha Trevino

Obviously, I'm so excited to be here. It's not about the stage. It's about the bathroom floor moments. It's about the crushing. Is this going to profit? Another human being? This human race, who we are in the crushing? That's where the oil really becomes, everything. And for me, I'd like to, you know, think that the Lord thought that much of me, that he could crush me.

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Latasha Trevino

And in betrayal, you kind of learn it's not even about you. Because if they betrayed the king and I'm no better than my master, then it's almost like you're thankful that you find out what you're really made of. Because without betrayal, you don't get to question, well, why do I let this person have so much authority over me?

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Latasha Trevino

Why do I let them become such an altar in my life? Why did my happiness depend on how they treated me? Why did I need their validation when I'm validated by the King? When he's the only one who has that reservation in my life, why would I let anyone else harm me? And then you do the inner work, and then you do the self work, and then you go to your therapist, and then you go and you do the work and say, okay, God, this was never about them.

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Latasha Trevino

I forgive them, I love them, they know not what they do. I'm not going to rob myself of my blessings and who I've been set to set free, because I'm going to harbor resentment. No, it was exactly what I needed to get me free to be able to tell other people betrayal. It's all over Judas. But Jesus still invited him to the table.

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Latasha Trevino

He still loved him. He still had a plan in his life. And you know, if Jesus went through that, then who am I not to go through betrayal?

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Pat McCalla

yeah. You know, Latasha, when? The day that I really understood what you're talking about. I remember reading the the gospel story that the part about Jesus when they, when he was washing their feet

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Latasha Trevino

Yes.

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Pat McCalla

and that one little phrase in there struck me where it says. And he finished washing all of their feet

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Latasha Trevino

Yes.

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Pat McCalla

and the all there included who you just mentioned,

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

Judas, the one who who was going to betray him.

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Pat McCalla

And he got down on his knees

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Pat McCalla

served the very one

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Latasha Trevino

Yes.

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Pat McCalla

he knew was about to betray

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Latasha Trevino

Yes.

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Pat McCalla

And

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Pat McCalla

isn't it powerful that we get to pray? You know, in those moments of betrayal? Because it was a long time ago for you. If I if you could go back and take your soul and put yourself in that moment and, and try to feel the emotions or someone who's listening, they feel the emotions of it.

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Pat McCalla

It's tough, isn't it? Feels like your heart is being ripped out.

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Latasha Trevino

Oh, sure.

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Latasha Trevino

But

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Pat McCalla

we don't pray to a God who doesn't know that feeling

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Latasha Trevino

Oh, sure.

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Pat McCalla

like he felt it

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. The betrayal and betrayal is ongoing. That was 14, 15 years ago, that marriage. And I'm still experiencing betrayal, I think as a faith leader, as a pastor, as a woman of faith, you you take on people that you love. You pour into them. And then there's betrayal. Even in that, there's betrayal and raising up and discipling people.

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Latasha Trevino

And then they change their mind about you based on not liking where they received. And you're like, I'm just the messenger. But in that moment, since we're talking about that, which is to me, the bathroom floor moment is so pivotal in my life. The betrayal is. And for you listening,

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Latasha Trevino

you think that you've, you've you've deposited and you have you have given everything that you have to somebody who didn't reciprocate and hope deferred can make the heart sick.

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Latasha Trevino

It makes the heart sick. So you're wondering, why am I not good enough? How come they don't want to pour into me? How come they don't want to be better for me? And my encouragement for you is that it's not that you're not significant. It's not that they're not worthy. It's that that person doesn't know and honor the Lord yet in a personal, reverent relationship.

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Latasha Trevino

And it has nothing to do with you. And even though you're broken and even though you're sad, and even though you can't stop crying since you're probably eating Haagen-Dazs right now, if you were like me, I got up to 265 pounds during betrayal and I was eating my emotions. It was self-harm.

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Latasha Trevino

I was not the specimen you see

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Latasha Trevino

before you today because I.

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Latasha Trevino

I'm in the gym every day like clockwork now, but I was really eating my feelings.

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Pat McCalla

Well, that's really interesting though, that you call that self-harm.

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Latasha Trevino

Oh, sure.

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Latasha Trevino

Like

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Pat McCalla

that was your form of self-harm

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Latasha Trevino

That was totally. I mean, I was trying to, like, burn the midnight oil. I'd put my kids to bed for seminary, like when I had to do papers at like 8 p.m., and then I'd work until five in the morning. I always say the Holy Spirit wrote my paper, so I still don't know how I graduated. The graduation rate, I think, for Master's of Divinity accelerated was like 50% less than five of that is, women and less than like two is Latino or African-American, you know?

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Latasha Trevino

So like, for me,

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Pat McCalla

So you're like a less than 2%.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. And and in the moment of getting to that goal, I was self-harming by trying to push down my emotions with food, trying to cope with the pain, which is not sustainable. Because then I looked in the mirror and I was 265 pounds at 51 and so, you know, after the divorce and the Lord released me from it was cheating guys.

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Latasha Trevino

That's what I went through. Cheating. That's the betrayal. I want to make sure I put a name to it. Lying. You know, betrayal. I went through physical abuse, emotional, psychological. And and again, we are amicable now, and, my ex-husband has found the Lord, and he's a great dad. But in that moment, that's what I experienced.

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Latasha Trevino

And so

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Latasha Trevino

you start to self-harm when you're harmed if you don't know your identity.

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Latasha Trevino

And I

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Pat McCalla

don't want us to miss that. What? You just

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Latasha Trevino

was that, a Jim?

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Latasha Trevino

So that was

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Pat McCalla

That was a mic drop moment there. So you said we start to self harm when we're harmed.

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Latasha Trevino

Yes, I believe so. In my experience I wasn't self-harming before I was in the system and this ecosystem of abuse. And so I was almost learning this behavior. And because of the frustration and being feeling powerless, it's almost like you feel helpless in this pit, like Joseph. And instead of climbing out, you become so, acclimated with the dysfunction that you really need deliverance, because those same demons that are through the partner coming against you then start to become your self thought and your inner thought and your inner voice.

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Latasha Trevino

And subconsciously, I'm not even aware I'm being attacked spiritually, you know? And so the deliverance moment was the bathroom floor. And then I went from 265 to like 145. I was running every day. I did it naturally and I was putting good things into my body, and it was all about healing from the inside out.

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Pat McCalla

Yeah,

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Pat McCalla

What was your journey for you to discover how you were so formed? Like, did you know it at the time? Were you consciously thinking like, I'm hurting myself

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Pat McCalla

or was that part of that deliverance moment that you had on the bathroom floor?

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Latasha Trevino

I think over the years, ministering to women, because when I left that world and I said, Lord, I'll follow you anywhere. I don't want this world, I don't want the money. I didn't leave with like money from the NFL. I was like, broke $0 like my kids. And I were literally eating popcorn balls from a trunk or treat one year after my divorce, because I didn't want people to have, like the sob story for me.

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Latasha Trevino

But I was literally like picking up a cross, right? So I really feel like the idea of self-harm evolved. When I started ministering to other women, I started teaching, and I started to host Bible studies, and I started to have women around my kitchen table, and I started to research more about, you know, well, why and what are the behavioral issues behind it.

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Latasha Trevino

So, you know, in seminary you have to take psychology courses. And as a faith based counselor, I started to see a lot of the same behavior cycles in women. So I started to pray and ask the Lord, reveal it to me, Lord. And it reminded me of the man who was across the lake that was self-harming, that everyone was like, we got him over there chained up.

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Latasha Trevino

He's cutting himself, he's beyond repair. And you know, Jesus goes over there and he bows down like, why have you come to, you know, before our time? And Jesus, like the demons bow down at the name of Jesus, at the sight of Jesus.

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Latasha Trevino

So for me, it was like when I got in the presence of glory, when I got in worship, when I started to love myself, you start to look at the behavior like that was.

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Latasha Trevino

Bad.

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Latasha Trevino

Behavior to myself. And then you, you realize that self-harm, it's no different than cutting. It's no different than, you know, the teenagers that I help with self-harm. And it's just you're not thinking, I'm trying to harm yourself. What you're trying to do is stop the pain, and then we give it a name and call it self harm.

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Pat McCalla

but you're trying to stop the

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Pat McCalla

Well, and that's why I wanted to pause a little bit before. Because usually when we hear self-harm, my even myself included, when I think of self-harm, I'm thinking of the typical like, okay, someone's

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Latasha Trevino

cutting.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

but you added a whole nother dimension to that. Did I think probably all of us in our human, in our broken humanness are self-harming in some

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Latasha Trevino

way.

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Latasha Trevino

Sure. Yeah.

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Latasha Trevino

It's the

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Pat McCalla

same way when I heard years ago when I was talking to a guy and he goes, I don't understand how anybody can have an addiction.

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Pat McCalla

I if I could go back to that moment, I'd look at him and be like, what are you talking about? We all have addictions

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. Yes.

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Pat McCalla

different, may not be a chemical addiction, but you have some kind of addiction.

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Pat McCalla

And and I think

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Pat McCalla

in that same, frame of mind, you're saying that

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Pat McCalla

those addictions are sometimes self-harm and it may not be cutting.

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Pat McCalla

be.

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Latasha Trevino

Oh, sure.

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Pat McCalla

All kinds of

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Latasha Trevino

I mean, it can even be neglecting yourself because you're such a supermom on all the Pinterest posts and doing all this stuff that you're neglecting yourself. You're not providing self-care because I can't look in the mirror, but I can go outward and I'm going to drive myself into the ground and I'm I'm carrying a mom cup.

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Latasha Trevino

Some moms know what that is on the soccer field, and it's not what. It's not full of water. It's full of vodka because it's like I can do the mom thing, but I've got to self soothe. I have to, not do life raw. And I think any way that we lean on anything, whether it's food, whether it's busywork, whether it's your career, anything that is taking the position of your relationship with the Lord is to me, self harm, because we are doing things and pouring ourself into something, that is,

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Latasha Trevino

a false idol.

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Latasha Trevino

So as long as you're in the vine and you're in Christ and you're putting him first, everything else, he doesn't want us to flourish. It's not that he doesn't want us to flourish. He doesn't not want us to have success or, you know, all of these things. But he's got to come first. And then after that, I think you're safe.

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Latasha Trevino

But at that time, Jesus was not first. So all of these other things became an idol that would kind of soothe me through the pain.

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Pat McCalla

mentioned to, in your email to our team, you mentioned that you didn't have a road map to navigate that. That was one of the difficult things at that time when

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Latasha Trevino

Okay.

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Pat McCalla

hit rock bottom or what was rock bottom for you. I have a friend that says there's no such thing as rock bottom.

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Pat McCalla

There's always another level down if you want to

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Latasha Trevino

go.

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Pat McCalla

But for you,

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Latasha Trevino

that you're

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Pat McCalla

rock bottom moment.

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Pat McCalla

But you had no roadmap at that time. What do you mean by that?

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Latasha Trevino

I think you're not prepared in one day. You just you just get to a place where Jesus is like, listen, kiddo, I love you too much. Like, it's like the prodigal son. When he gets to the end of himself, everybody's into themself. Looks different. But for me, I think the Lord. And he continues to rescue me. You know, he'll pull me out of a scenario or a situation where people are not kind to me.

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Latasha Trevino

People are not treating me well. And I think when you love God, you have such a fleshy heart and you put yourself as a shepherd, you lay down your life for man, for people, for the for the flock. And I've learned boundaries, and I've learned that the Lord has taught me there's there's safety and me as your refuge.

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Latasha Trevino

You're not Holy Ghost, junior. I love your tenacity, kiddo. But you're not me. I already did it at the cross. I already said it was finished. So I think it comes with the territory that you kind of learn. Okay, I wasn't expecting to fall on my face. Everybody said this world was so glamorous. Like, for me, it was like, you're either going to have other women at the Super Bowl and I'm not going to be there, or you're going to take the stand to say, my family is my family.

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Latasha Trevino

I'm done with the cheating, I'm done with that. And I'll go and we'll give this one more go. And that was my last straw. That was my boundary. And and I didn't go,

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Latasha Trevino

but my parents went and they were, like, watching, like Fergie and like the Black Eyed Peas. Like, we love that you're taking a stand for this.

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Latasha Trevino

But we got tickets to the Super Bowl, you know, and I'm not even mad at them for it. But I think you have to stand for something. You have to find some type of no more. And if you're at that place in your life right now where you're just like, no more, I promise you, on the other side of no more, God has so many promises that you couldn't even imagine.

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Pat McCalla

So well put. But that no more brings pain with it. Like that's your story. When you said no more, that ended up bringing you to the place where you're eating popcorn balls

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Latasha Trevino

and. Right.

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Latasha Trevino

Oh gosh.

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Latasha Trevino

Not that you you open up that no more door.

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Latasha Trevino

No.

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Latasha Trevino

On the other side.

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Latasha Trevino

No. It's terrible. It's beautiful and it's terrible and it's terrifying.

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Latasha Trevino

And you're like, you're all valiant. And you're like, yes, pick up my cross, follow you. Jesus. And then you're like, oh, okay, there's.

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Latasha Trevino

A crown of.

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Latasha Trevino

Thorns. Okay, okay. Jesus, we're going to do this every day.

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Latasha Trevino

We're going to be broken hearted every day.

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Latasha Trevino

We're going to get stripped every day we're going to.

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Latasha Trevino

And I think in that moment, you when I say I don't have a roadmap, okay, I go to seminary, I graduate, I see girl power because I'm like the only girl here, one of few now. Okay, I do this okay. After the Bible study. Now I do this. Okay. What after that? And it's like you're literally walking with the king.

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Latasha Trevino

He's delegating task and you're trying to keep up, and you do not have a roadmap. You think you arrived? I did radio in Los Angeles for a couple of years, years ago. Only faith based show on a secular network. We don't have time to get into how God took me there, but even that I was like, okay, I've arrived now.

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Latasha Trevino

And then it's like, nope, you're going to do advisory for a college ministry sorority and you're going to meet them at Panera every Friday and you're like, okay, so then that's done. And that assignment clears. Now there's no I know I have a plan. There is a map. In ten years, I'm going to be this person. My family is literally always like, well, my dad, he I love him.

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Latasha Trevino

He's really supportive now. But he was afraid, like telling my mom, Larry, how is she going to make it? How can she be self-reliant and how can she? She doesn't get offerings, she preaches for free. And my mom would be like Fred, the Lord will provide their great support system. My parents, I couldn't do a lot of the things in the early ministry without them, pouring in.

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Latasha Trevino

But you literally just have to follow God and know, like, it's not my play. This play is his play. I'm just in it. And so whatever you.

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Pat McCalla

what you're saying, Latasha, you're saying that if you're going to follow Jesus, there's not a roadmap for most of us.

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Pat McCalla

I in fact, I posted this on social media a couple of years ago. I said, you have no idea where you will be or what you'll be doing five years from now. Enjoy the journey.

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Pat McCalla

something happened to me about two months after I posted that, and so when I posted it later, I changed it from five years to a year. You have no idea where you'll be or what you'll be doing a year from now. Enjoy the journey.

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Latasha Trevino

Wow.

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Pat McCalla

And I would say sometimes it's a month from now or a week

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Latasha Trevino

from now, but that's been years, right? Yeah,

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Pat McCalla

I don't know where I'm going to be a year from now. So.

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Pat McCalla

where that might freak out some of our listeners.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

But it's a reality of life.

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Pat McCalla

Can you bring them some comfort in that saying,

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Latasha Trevino

oh sure, we

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Pat McCalla

have a roadmap, but here's the comfort.

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Latasha Trevino

I would have never met the people I met. I would have never helped. I would have never experienced the joy of seeing someone in their hopeless place get up off their bathroom floor. I always said, I don't care what we do. Jesus. I knew the difference between being in a world where money was. We cashed $25,000 checks every Thursday in the NFL.

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Latasha Trevino

I wanted none of that money. Okay, when I got with Jesus and I'm like, what are we doing? Yes, you have these moments that hurt and it's long suffering, but then you minister to someone and they look at you with these eyes where devastation was their reality, and they look at you and you come along and you don't know.

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Latasha Trevino

You don't. I don't think I'm that great. I don't think that I'm that great. I know that Jesus is everything. So when I walk in a room with him, he says her, if I can just side quests, my kids call it a side quest real quick. This is how God would work.

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Latasha Trevino

Saul. Random girl in a basketball game.

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Latasha Trevino

The Lord said, pay attention. I'm watching, I'm observing, and I'm picking up these microaggressions from her partner, who I believe is her partner. The Lord says, you're going to go minister to her. I'm like, oh gosh, God, I didn't have a map for this today. I don't have seminary training. They don't teach you this. And this is why I always say I've been spoon fed by the Holy Spirit.

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Latasha Trevino

And I go, oh Lord, it looks like she went the other direction. Sorry. Maybe this was not for me today. And the next thing I know, she's behind me and I hear the Holy Spirit say,

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Latasha Trevino

actually, she's behind you. And I turn around, I'm like, oh my gosh, there she is. And she look and she sees me. And in that moment, the Holy Spirit goes, turn around.

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Latasha Trevino

So I listen and I turn around and all I could have time to look at her to say is, I know. And she looked at me and she started crying. She said, is he looking? I don't know, this girl from shh. I said, no, he's not. And she said, I'm going to go to the restroom. Can you meet me there?

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Latasha Trevino

I said, I will follow you. When we went in the restroom, she said, how do you know? I said, the Holy Spirit revealed that you have been going through abuse, and then this is not your portion and there is better for you. Not to explain too much about her personal situation, but it was very bad. And I ended up meeting with her and doing counseling.

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Latasha Trevino

It was a provide a way for escape situation for her where authorities were involved and things like that.

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Latasha Trevino

She wrote me to this day, if you hadn't been in the room, I may not be alive. And that for me, you guys, that is a place that is worth more than any award. It's worth more than accolades. It's more than followers on TikTok. When you know that somebody's life has been changed because you decided to say, I'll stay another day, I just can't.

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Latasha Trevino

I can't express to you the joy, the peace, the comfort in that because you matter. Your life matters to someone else who's waiting for the key to escape their prison.

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Pat McCalla

And I love how you explain that, Latasha, because that that goes back to the roadmap thing. And that the truth is, it's like none of I. I don't care if you're a human, you don't know where you're going to be or what you be doing a year for now. But as a Jesus followers and I'm like, he gives us a roadmap and explains everything.

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Pat McCalla

It's a little bit of a as you go, right?

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Latasha Trevino

And that's what you're

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Pat McCalla

explaining as you go. Just be obedient.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. And that.

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Latasha Trevino

Story that. Yeah, amazing

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Pat McCalla

story in that life

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Pat McCalla

that God allowed you to be part of saving was because as you were going sitting at a basketball game, you hear him tell you maybe fought it a little bit

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

but because you were obedient, look at the story.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

And that's what it means, doesn't it? To walk with Jesus in this life is you may not have a roadmap, but do it as you go.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. And I think that eventually when you hit stride, I don't want to say he never provides anything. Right. So now I know that I've for 15 years kind of done. Yeah, I've done the behind the scenes and I kind of have an idea. Now I'm preaching now, you know, I'm, I'm on podcast sharing. You know, I'm doing conference.

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Latasha Trevino

So you get this is my this is my sphere. But within that sphere, once you kind of arrive to the sphere, you're just kind of like trusting in the Lord for what his plan is, essentially.

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Pat McCalla

Especially when going back to those the bathroom floor moments or those crushing times in her life. That's where you really feel like there's no roadmap, right?

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Latasha Trevino

Oh, no. Yeah.

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Latasha Trevino

All of us

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Pat McCalla

listening, when we've when we look back on those times, or maybe some of our listeners are in that time right now, that's where you feel like I don't even know how I'm going to get to the morrow.

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Latasha Trevino

Oh, sure.

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Latasha Trevino

And you know what? It's just beyond your wildest imagination. I love that you said in a day and a month you don't know where you're going to be, I, I packed up my car and moved across the country and was homeless for I claim it, two days did not have anywhere to hang my hat. Didn't know what I was doing when the Lord brought me here to Arizona and I ended up connecting with United Revival two weeks later.

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Latasha Trevino

ey were doing Jesus March and:

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Latasha Trevino

I heard the Lord say, go. And I was like, no, this is crazy, God. I ended up preaching United Revival there. Their leadership was like, hey, can you open up prayer? I was one of like four people. They asked to open up prayer. I was only woman. And the Lord gave me the message of the ten virgins, five with the oil and then the five foolish.

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Latasha Trevino

They said, you're going to preach this? And seven seconds. And I was like, okay, are we.

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Latasha Trevino

I even going to be doing anything here today? Jesus. I just came.

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Latasha Trevino

To march and hold the banner, and

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Latasha Trevino

I got up and there was:

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Latasha Trevino

dude, that was rad, right? And I'm like.

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Latasha Trevino

I'm barely like, the glory fell so crazy. Can I get my bearings?

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Latasha Trevino

I'm like that SpongeBob meme where he's like this

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Latasha Trevino

and like, everything is like swirling around him because the glory of God is so heavy that you're like, I love that you were just like, get in there, kiddo. I need a minute to breathe because it was so deep. If I never packed up my car, I would never have experienced that.

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Latasha Trevino

What? What an experience. Kind of orchestrated that kind of plan, that kind of network. That. Hey, guys, I want to be a part of what you're doing. No, it was like, hey, can you come up here and pray? And then afterwards are like, hey, pastor, can you do deliverance? And I was like, yeah. And I look at my kid and I'm like, we can do deliverance, right?

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Latasha Trevino

My, my kids are like, let's go, you know? And we cast out demons. This really happened. And this woman, we cast out demons. There was a team of us that I didn't know. Believers just coming together. She threw up. I don't have training in deliverance ministry. I don't have, like a corporate church training me on these things. I just went, she,

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Latasha Trevino

We prayed, she threw up, and when she came to, she was praying in the spirit and speaking in tongues. And she had a face that, like, just was so beautiful. And the thing that seems like rock bottom is the thing that's going to be your victory, right? So anyway, that's just like another amazing non road map moment where you'll never forget it.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

Yeah. You know when you talk about crushing to I remember reading I don't remember who said this but years ago someone said if you look at any man or woman who's been used greatly by God, you'll go back in their story and find out that there was a crushing first.

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Pat McCalla

And, after reading that, I've kind of watched through life and, and I've said to my wife sometimes been like, you know, I can usually tell after talking to someone for a while if there's been a crushing in their life yet.

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Latasha Trevino

I'm.

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Pat McCalla

sitting with you in this

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Latasha Trevino

30 or

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Pat McCalla

40 minutes that we've been talking to each other, it's been clear that there's been a crushing in your life. But that crushing didn't define you.

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Pat McCalla

actually it was you adjusting your crown. But

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Pat McCalla

go back to that, and I don't want you to speak into this for a moment.

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Pat McCalla

There's an important, an importance with a crushing.

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Pat McCalla

Right. Like there

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Pat McCalla

that whoever said that, look at any man or woman who's been used greatly by God, and you find it crushing in their story,

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Latasha Trevino

Yes.

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Pat McCalla

speak into that a little bit, could you? Because would you agree with that?

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. Because I, I couldn't be the person that I am today. Without the experience of being crushed because in order to multiply, right when Jesus had the fishes and loaves, he blessed it. And then he broke it, and then it fed the multitudes. So for me, it was a blessing that I was like, again, I say that he thought that much of me, that I could even carry this mantle.

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Latasha Trevino

And then for him to trust me little bit by little bit to to learn and to grow. And in the crushing, he had his hands on me. And, you know, it's not comfortable to get a massage when you got knots and you're like, oh, man, that hurts when you massage. I carry a lot of my stress in my upper back.

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Latasha Trevino

If you try to massage me, I'm like, that hurts. But if I don't release that, it doesn't get the toxics out of the toxins out of my muscles because I heavy, I do heavy, progressive weight training and things like that. So it's necessary. But it's also very it's a very hopeful thing, knowing. Yeah, I'm going through pain.

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Latasha Trevino

I'm going through betrayal. My life completely changed overnight. I didn't anticipate my life to go this direction. I was lied to. I was manipulated, I was not considered. I wasn't even thought of someone else's decision. It didn't even matter how it would affect me, how it affect my life, how it affected my mental health, my well-being.

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Pat McCalla

what betrayal, really? That defines betrayal

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Latasha Trevino

Really? Yeah. Makes you really feel like you could care less if I. Yeah. I don't matter. And that's the thing about the crushing, I would. I always say I was an athlete in high school and you know, you have your coaches that give you a hard time. And I had this coach, it's so funny what God brings to your remembrance.

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Latasha Trevino

I didn't know how I would

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Latasha Trevino

what I was going to talk about, but I certainly didn't think I was going to talk about my coach in high school. Coach. Merli. Hi, coach. Merli. Haven't talked to him since I was probably 17, but he gave me a hard time. I was a setter, and I was short, but I was good.

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Latasha Trevino

I always say if I had six foot, six foot high, I would have been to Purdue or somewhere. Awesome. To play ball. But he gave me such a hard time and I remember thinking, man, this guy really cannot stand me. And then finally, when we had our banquet, I remember he said something to the effect of, you remind me so much of myself.

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Latasha Trevino

The reason I was so hard on you is because your potential to lead this team as a captain was so great that I couldn't give you the kind of like chummy chum chum, because I needed to make sure you knew how important it you were to the team. And so I was hard on you, and I feel like that helped me and leadership in so many facets.

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Latasha Trevino

And so for me, in the crushing you guys, at least, you know God's hand is on you. He's not going to be going horse over someone who doesn't have potential. Your gifts may be dormant. Your business that you have in your mind. It might be an idea, but thank God that he loves us enough that he'll massage the parts out of us that are not needed.

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Latasha Trevino

And he's with us. You know he loves us. That's why he chastises the children that he loves.

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Latasha Trevino

It's comfort.

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Pat McCalla

said, well said. You know, Latasha, I'd love for you to speak into this for a moment, too. So. So this podcast is built around the whole idea that, we make our choices, and eventually our choices make us think that the complexity of what it means to be made in the image of God,

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Latasha Trevino

Yes.

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Pat McCalla

that he's created us with the power of choice.

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Latasha Trevino

Sure.

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Pat McCalla

And that's good and bad. There's there's both sides of that. But we've been talking a lot about crushing, the bathroom floor moments that you've been talking about, dealing with the difficult times. So just speaking to a little bit about choices and the choices that we can make in

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Latasha Trevino

That's such a great question because, listen, I give God glory for everything I do, but I was on the StairMaster this morning because that's been my new, challenge 45 minutes a day. I start off at, like, a six, and then I go on to eights, and then I'm even running now because I've been working at this, and I get up every morning and I do this.

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Latasha Trevino

And while I was on the StairMaster this morning and I was so excited to come here, anything that God says, this is what I want to do. I'm so excited to talk about what he's done in my life. But he said, you know, kiddo, I feel like that's how God talks to me. He calls me kiddo. You make a decision.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. It's like a personal thing. You get out of the bed. You've battled depression. You've battled anxiety, you've battled recent betrayal. You still show up to the gym, and you meet me on the StairMaster, and you pray and you seek me. And no matter what sorrow or troubles you're going through, you still show up and you have to get on the StairMaster.

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Latasha Trevino

seconds, you wait till:

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Latasha Trevino

You're not. But I love you for trying. And he's like, and you're challenging yourself every day. You're making the decision to do that. I've given you freewill. And I say, pick up your cross and follow me. But you have to be the one to commit. Commit to your dream. Commit to the vision. Commit to who I called you to be.

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Latasha Trevino

Guys, when somebody tells you you can't do it, you have to make the decision to believe their Word or God's Word. I tell you, I've been doing this for 16 years and I didn't have a lot of support. I didn't have a lot of people who believed in me. I lost family, I lost friends, I went through seasons of isolation on holidays by myself eating peanut butter out of a jar.

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Latasha Trevino

You really get comfortable after a while of deciding, you know what? Giving up is way harder than trying to burn the ships. I've gotten this far and I can't go back now, so if you like me, great. If you love me, great. If you don't, great. You guys are not my God. And the only one that I can give credit to for giving me the will to survive and to flourish is that if he said that, we could do it.

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Latasha Trevino

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Then and he died for me, and he rose again. And the power of the living God resides in me. Then how can I not show up to victory? It's scary. I was nervous coming here. This is such a huge blessing. I love that God's like, okay, we're going to put you on this podcast.

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Latasha Trevino

I'm like, this is an amazing podcast. I used to do radio from my closet. I was criss cross applesauce and they would patch me in to LA, and I thought that was like, oh my God, I arrived. You guys are like a whole operation here, you know, and I don't take it for granted. I just think that in the moments where you feel like giving up guys, you have to make a decision to say, what if I give up?

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Latasha Trevino

And breakthrough is right there? So I just want to encourage all make sure that you're making the decision to choose to win because it's in reach.

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Pat McCalla

Wow.

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Pat McCalla

One other quick question before we start wrapping it

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Latasha Trevino

up. Yeah sure.

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Latasha Trevino

This

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Pat McCalla

is I'm going to spring this one on you,

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Latasha Trevino

okay.

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Pat McCalla

that we weren't prepared for it, but

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Pat McCalla

I believe you're a theologian to. I believe the goodness of God is the skeletal

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Latasha Trevino

And there's

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Pat McCalla

that all of our theology hangs on. If you don't believe that God is good, than any other theology is probably going to crumble.

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Pat McCalla

You're going to struggle with

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah, yeah.

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Pat McCalla

So I can tell just talking with you these last 45 minutes or so

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Pat McCalla

that you deeply believe in the goodness of God. Can you speak into that a little bit?

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Latasha Trevino

The goodness of God?

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Latasha Trevino

My God.

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Latasha Trevino

I just I can't.

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Latasha Trevino

Like it's just so.

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Latasha Trevino

Impossible to put words to it, you know, it's just so impossible to put words to a love that is so unlike

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Latasha Trevino

a human love. And we can try our best. But agape love, man is where it's at.

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Latasha Trevino

if you ever thought about, you know, something that you love so much, and if you lost it, how would you feel the idea of the separation of the Lord is something that I.

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Latasha Trevino

I try not to think about, but when I think about what would my life be if if the Holy Spirit, if the helper was not here and I had separation from the Lord? It's like a vacuum. It's like a void. It's nothing. There's nothing. Thankfully, I have had the seed that Jesus loves me. But truly, to know the love of Christ and to to know the depths that he will go, the pit that he will rescue out of, it's just unexplainable.

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Latasha Trevino

I like to talk about this guy that I learned about who was at the Travis Scott concert years ago, when all those people lost their lives. It was very terrible. But this guy, he was he was like, I was an atheist, and he was like. And I was at the bottom of the pit. He said, I didn't believe in God, he said, but I knew something was happening, and he was like, and I just got to the bottom.

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Latasha Trevino

And I felt like my my chest was being trampled on. And he said, and I was going to take my last breath. He said, I really, truly believe it was my last breath. And I just said, Jesus. And he said, and I knew enough that even though I was an atheist, I didn't know anything about God. When push came to shove and I was at the bottom of that pit and people are trampling all over me, he said.

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Latasha Trevino

I said, Jesus, and all of the sudden this hand comes out from nowhere and it pulls me out and he's telling the story and he's like, there's no way. Where I was at where security was, people were not getting rescued, they were not getting pulled out. But I got pulled out and he said, til that day, I'm a believer.

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Latasha Trevino

That just gave me Holy Spirit chills because it's like, That's God's love. He will come out and he will rescue you. It doesn't matter how dirty you are, it doesn't matter how much you messed up. It doesn't matter how much you send. It doesn't matter how much you've fallen short of the glory. Redemption is our portion. His mercies are new every day.

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Latasha Trevino

That's the goodness of God where he can tell a story to say I turned my back on God. I was an atheist. I didn't an onion and he's the one who saved me. That's what the thief on the cross represents. He didn't say, go to church and do all of the things and then you can come. He said, I believe you are he.

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Latasha Trevino

You will be with me this day in Paradise. That's a love, guys, that you got to tap into.

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Latasha Trevino

you do nothing for it. We can't do anything to earn it. It's just given.

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Pat McCalla

at that point. Right. The thief on the cross.

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Latasha Trevino

Nothing. Nothing.

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Pat McCalla

And yet Jesus says you'll be with me in

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Latasha Trevino

Right?

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Latasha Trevino

That's his love. I don't know if that describes his goodness, but.

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Latasha Trevino

It's so good.

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Latasha Trevino

And I

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Latasha Trevino

love the irony. By the way, I'm an

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Pat McCalla

atheist calling out to Jesus.

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Pat McCalla

Right. Like

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Pat McCalla

irony there is like, I don't believe in Jesus. But in my desperate moment, Jesus saved

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Latasha Trevino

Yes.

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Pat McCalla

what happened there, right?

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Latasha Trevino

That's a bathroom floor moment.

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Pat McCalla

Yeah for sure. Well, the reason that I wanted you to speak in the goodness of God is because, I knew you would have an understanding to it because you said,

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Pat McCalla

keep saying that he'll call you kiddo,

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Latasha Trevino

You know

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Pat McCalla

that that's how that that that when you're talking to God, you'll hear him sometimes refer to it and say, hey, kiddo.

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Pat McCalla

And that's someone I who I think and when I say someone, I'm talking about you. You're someone who I think can can start to understand or grasp the incomprehensible goodness of God. When you understand that the King of all kings, Lord of all lords, this creator of the universe is one that we can't fathom. This ineffable God

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Latasha Trevino

you look

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Pat McCalla

at you and tell you to adjust your crown because you're a princess.

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Pat McCalla

We'll call you kiddo because you're his daughter.

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Pat McCalla

that's understanding the goodness of God

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah, as much as we can. Because he's so he's God, and yet we have Adonai. We have all these great titles for him, Yahweh. And and thank God for the advocate. Thank God for Jesus. And then he comes in and it's personable. And he's like, one of the things I will share that I the best Jesus moments.

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Latasha Trevino

I remember I was like a Martha Mary moment, and I was cleaning and I was doing all this stuff, and I felt like I felt Jesus walk in the room and he was like, I just want to be with you. And in that moment, I dropped the dishes and I fell to my feet, and I thought about relationship and I thought, oh my gosh, Lord, we don't even deserve you here.

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Latasha Trevino

We're doing all this stuff and we're on the hamster wheel, and we're so busy and we want to advance the kingdom. We want to have this, want to have that. And literally you're there like, I want to hang out with you. I just love you.

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Latasha Trevino

I don't even want to hang out with.

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Latasha Trevino

Me all the time. And God thinks that I'm awesome enough when he's like seeing.

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Latasha Trevino

The world and he's like, hey girl, what's up? What are you doing day? How's your day? And I'm like, well, Lord, I just.

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Latasha Trevino

You know, you just undone to be thought of. Don't you feel like just being thought of by anyone makes you undone? But then by God, you're like, I'm not worthy. Thank you, Lord,

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Pat McCalla

Latasha, thank you so much for

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Latasha Trevino

sure. It's been

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Pat McCalla

amazing having you. How would someone get Ahold of you if

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Latasha Trevino

someone.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah,

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Pat McCalla

to, Get in contact with you? Or maybe someone wanted to have you out as a speaker

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Latasha Trevino

Sure. Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

How would they get Ahold of you?

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah. So we have, I am a nonprofit organization. Founded the ministry. We call it Faith ministries. So you can find me there. It's w e Khalil Faith ministries. I e s at the end, so we call it Faith ministries.com. And then also, I have social media. My TikTok is really geared for like millennial Gen Z trying to pull in on the younger generation.

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Latasha Trevino

So that's a little bit more impersonal. But daily motivational message. It's TikTok, app pastor for the culture pastor, the number for the culture. And you can kind of follow my workout journey every day. And I kind of like add fitness stuff on there, just like motivational things. But really the the nonprofit, the ministry.

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Pat McCalla

Okay. We'll have some of that information

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Latasha Trevino

Sure.

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Pat McCalla

below too,

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Pat McCalla

for our listeners right now. Well, what is one of the fun parts for the podcast? So

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Latasha Trevino

we've been listening to you for

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Pat McCalla

about 45 minutes or so. I've gotten to know you a little bit. You're going to see if you can stop me.

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Latasha Trevino

Okay.

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Latasha Trevino

I'm going to ask you on a

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Latasha Trevino

podcast.

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Latasha Trevino

So you.

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Latasha Trevino

Okay?

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Pat McCalla

are going to be true, one is going to be a lie. And I have to try to guess the lie.

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Latasha Trevino

Okay,

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Latasha Trevino

So I met Dave Chappelle, the comedian, the great comedian Dave Chappelle. Okay. Met him. I do skydiving once a year, just once, because that's all I can bear. And I also, believe it or not, invented a taco dish that, has become pretty popular and trending and I'm working on getting that patented right now.

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Latasha Trevino

Or, like, copyrighted.

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Pat McCalla

Oh, man, those are good.

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Pat McCalla

let me see. I'm going to try to narrow this down, and I'm going to say the taco dish is. That's a truth. That's got to be true. I'm going to go to your part of your heritage.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah.

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Latasha Trevino

It is true.

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Latasha Trevino

The copywriting part of it. I don't really know if I'm going to go through that. I just like that people are eating tacos. But that's true. I make a pretty good taco dish.

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Latasha Trevino

Okay,

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Pat McCalla

so I got a:

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Latasha Trevino

Chance, you know?

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Latasha Trevino

Right.

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Pat McCalla

So

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Pat McCalla

Dave Chappelle or skydiving once a year. Oh man. I'm going to go with, you met Dave Chappelle. That's the truth.

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Latasha Trevino

Yeah, yeah, that's the truth.

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Latasha Trevino

You don't

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Latasha Trevino

I don't skydive.

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Latasha Trevino

Y'all would never

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Pat McCalla

jump out of a plane.

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Latasha Trevino

I have jumped into the faith, and I think that's skydiving enough. I believe that if you like to skydive, great. But my adrenaline stays pretty maxed out here. Carry my cross for Jesus on the ground, so. No, but you're right. I met Dave Chappelle when I was in college. It was actually very cool, to be young and meet Dave Chappelle because he was, like, doing his show, and it was like pretty the peak of his career.

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Latasha Trevino

But anyway, yeah, you're.

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Latasha Trevino

Good,

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Latasha Trevino

you're good. You got it.

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Pat McCalla

Well, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate

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Latasha Trevino

it for sure.

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Latasha Trevino

Thank you for having me. And God bless you for bringing people like myself here to have a platform just to honor the Lord with our testimonies. I mean, I am truly humbled and honored, and I'm just gracious for everyone here who's been a support today. Thank you,

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Pat McCalla

Thank you.

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Host

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No Grey Areas
Hosted by Patrick McCalla
Life is a series of choices, and every choice you make ultimately makes you. The “No Grey Areas Podcast” is a motivational podcast platform with captivating guests centered around how our choices humanize, empower, and define who we become. The podcast was influenced by the story of Joseph Gagliano, the man who coordinated the largest college basketball sports scandal in 1994. No Grey Areas shares the underlying message that our choices, big or small, pave our future destiny.

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